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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:19 PM   #16
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I like all the great input here, The motor however wont get delivered til tomarrow. I have done alot of research on axles, I think the 8.8 is the cheaper rout as well as it will go in easier i could always start with it. And slowly upgrade ad build a ford 9" on the side. I just hate when you have to do something twice, Id hate to destroy it the first day out wheeling. I will not be easy on it by no means.

however im thinking of engine mounts, atm I was thinking of the bolt in craddle i seen a few years back, However Im not sure if it will hold up to be the abuse not only i throw at it but as well the engine.

Also was thinking about the water pump, a friend wanted me to go with an electric one, i just think that will open anther thing to fail..

on another note im going to go with a holley carb truck off road avenger. any objections to this.

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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:29 PM   #17
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The 8.8 will hold up just fine. And if you want to be sure get some chromolly shafts and a full carrier locker. Then it will be as strong or stronger than a 9" with the stock jeep width.

I thought a carburated motor would be just fine for me but now I regret not going with fuel injection and will soon be swapping a TBI setup in.

I used Novaks weld in motor mounts and they have been great!
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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:29 PM   #18
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I like all the great input here, The motor however wont get delivered til tomarrow. I have done alot of research on axles, I think the 8.8 is the cheaper rout as well as it will go in easier i could always start with it. And slowly upgrade ad build a ford 9" on the side. I just hate when you have to do something twice, Id hate to destroy it the first day out wheeling. I will not be easy on it by no means.

however im thinking of engine mounts, atm I was thinking of the bolt in craddle i seen a few years back, However Im not sure if it will hold up to be the abuse not only i throw at it but as well the engine.

Also was thinking about the water pump, a friend wanted me to go with an electric one, i just think that will open anther thing to fail..

on another note im going to go with a holley carb truck off road avenger. any objections to this.
Sorry to ask this if you already said it... but how much is the 383 costing you? I am looking into a 383 swap for a strictly off-road jeep and have to add up all of the costs to get a general idea.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:57 PM   #19
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Well im kinda of getting a really really good deal on this motor i payed 500 dollars for just the motor comes with heads ect. however my buddy has more in the cam then that. just doesnt have anything to put it in. its been sitting on the stand in his garage for awhile now i will have to get a water pump and all the accessories and so forth. but for 500 bucks i couldnt let that go. i already got offered a 1000 for it. my buddy had paid for it to built it was a little over 1700 when it first got built and that was just for the base motor internals ect no heads.

TBI will be down the road, but dont want to shell out the ponies atm.

Im going to look at some other build threads right now to get some more ideas

let me know if you have any build threads in mind i should see.
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Unread 04-08-2013, 08:42 PM   #20
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Alright got the motor today and its pretty wild how this is going to come together...

Im thinking of going with an automatic transmission now however maybe something with the roll stop not for sure what yet but i will upload pictures of the project here pretty soon.

what gear ratio you guys running in your 8.8 ford rear ends?]]]Moser Axles Ftw?

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Unread 04-09-2013, 04:07 AM   #21
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Go with 4.56.

I am running 3.73 with my 700R4 and its too much. At 70mph i am sitting at around 1300-1400 rpm. Sounds good except it puts hella presure on the trans components. I recently turned my 4 Speed 700R4 into a 2 speed Powerglide because my gearing wasn't low enough. Its ok, because I can get 65 out of 2nd gear at around 2,200 rpm.


Minimum of 4.10, but i recomend 4.56. Someone else suggested the same to me, but i was a dumba$$ and didn't listen.
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Unread 04-09-2013, 08:01 AM   #22
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I'm runnin 4.10s with my 35s and th400 and at 80mph Its right about 3k and 65 is around 2500 so depend what you going to use your jeep for..
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Unread 04-09-2013, 03:20 PM   #23
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What I meant was the extra pressure applied by the tall tires on the trans caused it to burn out 3rd gear and overdrive. The trans was struggling in overdrive and kept shifting back and forth due to the very low rpm. So now I am rocking a 700R4 as a 2 speed. The 700r4 has different gearing than the TH400, so the rpms are much different. You are pretty good with your rpm/speed, but mine wouldn't be as optimal.
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Unread 04-09-2013, 03:51 PM   #24
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I wasnt disagreeing with you I was just telling the OP my setup and what he could expect
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Unread 04-09-2013, 07:40 PM   #25
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Oops, sorry, misconstrued your statement.
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Unread 04-10-2013, 06:54 PM   #26
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I need to look through some build threads and come up with some more ideas.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 08:25 PM   #27
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alright so im just getting parts together so i can take pictures and then dive right into doing this... Im really thinking i want to weld in motor mounts instead of the cradle. still throwing around ideas this will go into gear here very very soon. just glad to have sold the motor transfercase and transmission already covers what i paid for the motor and some other things hang in there updates are comming soon!
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Unread 04-18-2013, 09:06 PM   #28
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yeah.... if/when you ever have to drop the pan (gasket, rear main seal, oil pump, etc) you'll be thankful you don't have that cradle in your way
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Unread 12-13-2013, 08:13 PM   #29
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Im back

So recently bought a Harley been taking up some money. along with kids ect the cost of living and my blood pressure lol....


So I still have the same jeep in my profile, still have the 383 stroker, have not made any progress on it until today lol


I was given a 1982 K5 Blazer only thing missing is the motor. has fresh rebuild on tranny and transfer case.

Unfortunately it only has the 10 bolt front and rear axles

Fortunately it has the 700r4 tranny

Unsure, if I should use the np208 transfer case from it...

So I have decided that this will be done and I will start gathering and researching again. I have a few things that im waiting on to sell before I can go any deeper into this. but just would like to hear some thoughts and opinions

I have decided to go with the ford 8.8 get the tubes welded in replace carrier and throw some moser axles in it going to get the 32 spline with disc brakes. LSD probably auburn or whatever there called. either way I want to use the 700r4 my 383 the np208 transfer case since I have it.
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Unread 12-13-2013, 11:31 PM   #30
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if you decide to keep the 208 (that thing is HUGE and HEAVY) then you'll have to get a front axle from a chevy or older dodge, as that 208 is a passenger drop.... but it could be made to work easy enough.

My drivetrain came from a K5 also.... originally with the 208 like yours. I ditched the 208 (sold it on CL for $75) and went to a u-pull and picked up an NP-241 from an early-mid 90s chevy 2500 pickup. It's driver drop, bolted right up to the 700r4, and better still, there are SYEs available for the 241 (expensive, but available from JB conversions) where in my searching, I couldn't find a SYE for the 208.

Good luck, and take lots of pics... both for us AND for yourself... nice to look back and see your progress
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