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KRenegade 09-20-2009 01:25 PM

Tummy Tuck on a YJ?
 
Hey guys and gals. I have been searching for a bit and i can only find threads for TJ tummy tucks. I was curious if its been done, can it be done, should it be done, and how to do it if its possible for a YJ. I am in the process of swapping frames for my 95yj and i just thought since im replacing the motor mounts, the body mounts if it just requires and little body lift and a MML and getting a new skid plate i might as well do a tummy tuck. I do plan on getting a suspension lift in the future but my wallet and my schedual are telling me get her on the road before snow flies lol. Thanks for the help.

yjjason 09-20-2009 01:30 PM

Drivetrain lift+flat belly+lower suspension=Lower COG
take a look @ this tread, its here in yj tech. :2thumbsup:

machinehead131 09-20-2009 01:41 PM

I am in the middle of my 8.8 / tummy tuck.

So far - 1" MML 1" BL and teraflex belly up

KRenegade 09-20-2009 01:45 PM

My over all goal is to have a low COG build. I have seen acouple homemade highline jobs that i really like. Im just trying to set myself up for the build now and not have to replace new body mounts with a BL and new MM with a new MML in several months. I would rather ,if possible without going through the SYE and new CV Shaft, just do the little things now and when comes time to do my highline and lift have the tummy tuck done.

KRenegade 09-20-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinehead131 (Post 7960609)
I am in the middle of my 8.8 / tummy tuck.

So far - 1" MML 1" BL and teraflex belly up

Thats all you really needed for your tummy tuck? It seems that you alrdy had to go through and swap driveshafts and axles and stuff but would you have if you just did the 1" MM and BL?

KRenegade 09-20-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yjjason (Post 7960572)
Drivetrain lift+flat belly+lower suspension=Lower COG
take a look @ this tread, its here in yj tech. :2thumbsup:

LOL if only i could have my tires stick out that far in PA. I would nickname my jeep the WARTHOG lol. Im looking for a more conservative appearance.

Joe Dillard 09-20-2009 03:57 PM

I have a few friends who took a gamble and installed Tera belly-ups & all of them have removed them because they were sorely dissatisfied with how they did not hold up. Some of these were on YJ's while others were on TJ's. Most of them were so deformed & bent, that they tossed 'em in the nearest dumpster & then built their own.

One friend got so sick & tired of removing it after every offroad run so he could bend it back (even after reinforcing it) that he wouldn't even sell it to an enemy, or give it away for free. For light duty use, they *might* be okay, but if you like to play in the rocks, I'd pass on the Tera BU.

These installs I'm talking about above, were all done some years ago, so maybe things have changed with the Tera BU. :dunno:

Maybe you can try PMing a couple of my friends Joel (zman) or Matt Pascoe (Matt Pascoe) & ask 'em how they did their homebrew BU's on their YJ's.

Joel:

http://www.fototime.com/5FB4A64442FBABA/standard.jpg

Matt:

http://www.fototime.com/A6DDE53F80B6389/standard.jpg

Here's some interesting reading concerning a review I saw on another website:

Quote:

TeraFlex Belly DON'T
Date: Mar 21, 2005
Reviewer: A JeepReviews.com User from (Sacramento, CA)

I installed this product on a '94 YJ. It created a major domino effect on things I had to change or modify behind the installation.

Use caution when considering this product.

TeraFlex writes a nice CYA, however, it does not include any mention of welding required. The sales ads say all of the buzz words of modifications that "may" be needed, but DO NOT state that welding is required. They also include some engine spacers, NO GOOD. So, consider these things when purchasing, above and beyond what TeraFlex advertises; 1" motor mounts, welding the provided spring perches to your axle (for correct drive line angle), and motor fan shroud clearence. Definately make some considerations before purchasing this product. I spoke with multiple 4x4 parts stores and installers and found only one person that has installed this product. Try and talk with someone that has installed this product, because TeraFlex's instruction sheet is USELESS!

jenniferjeep 09-20-2009 04:07 PM

What about the Nth-degree belly up? Any body know anthing about it?

KRenegade 09-20-2009 04:40 PM

Thanks Joe Dillard for the heads up on the Teraflex BU skid. After researching them i wish i had the fab skills to make my own. It seems like a pretty easy concept that can cost anywhere from $450-1000+. I will have to look into seeing if i can find someone to take a piece of 1/4" steel, cut it and drill acouple holes lol. My main question for this thread is If i do a BU/TT will i need to do a SYE and change driveshafts or will my stock YJ with saggy leafs be able to hold out until i get my lift when i plan on doing the SYE and everything? I know a BU/TT is something im going to want to do but my wallet isnt going to let me throw a lift with everything that goes with that. I am swapping frames now so the MML and the BL would be easy to throw on. Thanks Guys i appreciate the help.

Joe Dillard 09-20-2009 05:11 PM

My guess is that raising the tcase up ~3" has a good chance of upsetting rear driveline angles & a SYE & CV is likely, but I can not tell you for certain. Yea, a MML would help, but I don't know if that alone would be enough on a stock suspension.

I view it as if a 3" suspension were to be added since the "cause & effect" would be similar.

Maybe a simple shim of the rear axle pinion angle would do the trick if the resulting TT caused vibes.

KRenegade 09-20-2009 05:56 PM

Thats what i was looking for. After seeing the price of the premade skids and their quality plus the cost i would incure doing the sye im going to roll with a 1" daystar body lift for the time being and when i go to put my suspension lift on ,probably in the spring, i'll fab my own skid get the MML and do all of that at once. My main concern right now is getting her back on the road so ill just hold off. Thanks for your help guys :cheers2:

doug_1994 09-21-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRenegade (Post 7960684)
LOL if only i could have my tires stick out that far in PA. I would nickname my jeep the WARTHOG lol. Im looking for a more conservative appearance.

Hey, thats my jeep, and I'm in Pa.!

Just kidding...

I allways liked this one...boatsides too...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...y-tuck-400250/

Tom95YJ 09-21-2009 09:33 AM

Here's my Home Brew Belly up I couldn't go flush w/o cutting out the floorpans.
I still gained 2.5in over of clearance stock Im running the daystar 1" bl and Browndog 1" MML

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d8a7f65e6e.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...f5e830a2a7.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...d1a6091821.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...65f97e30cc.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...c50c6b830a.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...65040b2f63.jpg

jeepercreeper77 09-21-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenniferjeep (Post 7961214)
What about the Nth-degree belly up? Any body know anthing about it?

the teraflex belly up is definetly not worth the money.:thumbdown: high priced junk.when i got it the paint was already chiping off.you need 2" body lift for a standard trans jeep or the trans hits the tub. i wish i had bought the nth-degree. from what i've seen so far it's worth the little extra money.

Tom95YJ 09-21-2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepercreeper77 (Post 7965557)
the teraflex belly up is definetly not worth the money.:thumbdown: high priced junk.when i got it the paint was already chiping off.you need 2" body lift for a standard trans jeep or the trans hits the tub. i wish i had bought the nth-degree. from what i've seen so far it's worth the little extra money.


I saw the tera one and wasn't impressed I have yet to see the nth. the pics above are of my home brew skid thats 1/4" plate reinforced ,with 1/2 c channel , and 1" boxed tubing that keeps my bolt heads recessed . Total cost $57.00


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