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Unread 04-09-2007, 10:22 AM   #31
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I don't have any leaks in mine but I let my buddy (the tranny rebuilder) drive it for a day and he said that he could feel the pedal firmness change a bit as he drove it. He took it to his shop and the owner drove it and said that the seals on the MC piston were failing and that was causing the eratic pedal feel and clutch disengagement. The clutch aloso disengages only @ 1" from the fire wall.

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Unread 04-09-2007, 10:49 AM   #32
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i have the ax15 tranny. i put the correct fluid in it as well.
what is this "correct fluid" you speak of?
brand and GL rating please.
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Unread 04-09-2007, 10:51 AM   #33
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Another poster recommend Redline/synchromesh wonder why?
I thought you said you used something else. You need to try one of these drive it a while and post back.
i have used both, and currently use the redline in mine.
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Unread 04-09-2007, 11:45 AM   #34
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what is this "correct fluid" you speak of?
brand and GL rating please.

brand: coastal or something like that
75w90

gl rating?? wtf is that... its the right fluid, regardless of the name on the bottle its al meant to do the same thing and performs just as well as any name brand fluid.... to a point. that being said, im going to swap it out just to prove to myself that the fluid is not the problem.

im gonna drop it off at a tranny shop ive done business with before and have them look at it and get there opinion. they wont charge me anything to look at it. ill let you guys know how it goes. thanks again for the help and fast responses
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Unread 04-09-2007, 12:13 PM   #35
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I too am wondering about a dragging clutch, but Ill go one step further, I had one where the forks on the pressure plate let go and it would pull the clutch out sortof like crooked, this caused one edge of the disc to still drag. It was a factory pressure plate so dont rule it out on mileage. unfortuneatly the only way to check this is to have the plate off and bench test it, they put it on a table, compress the springs, and note the travel of the plate. mine only lifted one side fully, the other side barely came off the table.

Oh this after months of trying to find out why it was doing this. I did all the above. Let us know what the trouble is in the end. I am curious.
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brand: coastal or something like that
75w90

gl rating?? wtf is that... its the right fluid, regardless of the name on the bottle its al meant to do the same thing and performs just as well as any name brand fluid.... to a point. that being said, im going to swap it out just to prove to myself that the fluid is not the problem.

im gonna drop it off at a tranny shop ive done business with before and have them look at it and get there opinion. they wont charge me anything to look at it. ill let you guys know how it goes. thanks again for the help and fast responses
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its the right fluid, regardless of the name on the bottle its al meant to do the same thing and performs just as well as any name brand fluid
if this were true you would likely not be experiencing the issues you are having.
wise up... do some research on your particular transmission before you just pour the cheapest gear oil you can find at autozone into your transmission.

the so called "correct fluid" you poured into yout ax15 transmission is not the right stuff, and will do more damage than good. the GL5 fluid you dumped in there will damage your synchros, and is too thick for your AX15.

ax15 transmissions like GL3 fluid.
gl3-4 will do, but they prefer #3.
do yourself a favor and get some from the dealership, some synchromesh, (research to find which type) or redline GL3-4).
you can pinch your pennies on the coastal fluid which will save you ~$5 bucks a quart, or pay ~$800 to have your transmission rebuilt.

you decide.
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Unread 04-09-2007, 12:23 PM   #37
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if this were true you would likely not be experiencing the issues you are having.
wise up... do some research on your particular transmission before you just pour the cheapest gear oil you can find at autozone into your transmission.

the so called "correct fluid" you poured into yout ax15 transmission is not the right stuff, and will do more damage than good. the GL5 fluid you dumped in there will damage your synchros, and is too thick for your AX15.

ax15 transmissions like GL3 fluid.
gl3-4 will do, but they prefer #3.
do yourself a favor and get some from the dealership, some synchromesh, (research to find which type) or redline GL3-4).
you can pinch your pennies on the coastal fluid which will save you ~$5 bucks a quart, or pay ~$800 to have your transmission rebuilt.

you decide.
hey man, i am just going by what the haynes manual says. but like i already said before, i am going to swap it out for some other stuff but wont have a chance to do so until the weekend. ill keep you all posted
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hey man, i am just going by what the haynes manual says. but like i already said before, i am going to swap it out for some other stuff but wont have a chance to do so until the weekend. ill keep you all posted
hey man,
in this instance that was not the right thing to do. there was a typeographical error in the chrysler shop manual which made it to all of the alternate publications. haynes, chiltons, autozone computers, etc... al had the same error. none of them have updated and corrected the error.
call chrysler to verify

sometimes it is best to ask, rather than scream from the rooftops how you used the "right fluid" and "they are all the same".
i hope this helps
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Unread 04-09-2007, 01:53 PM   #39
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I have the same problem with my 88 French tranny for 5 year's. I learned to shift into 1st just before coming to a full stop. Problem solved!

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i have used both, and currently use the redline in mine.

Yeah the Redline has worked wonders for me.

I've been trying to get this guy with the prob to try the redline or synthetic before doing anything else!

I have the same prob and when I change my fluid it goes away. Might as well try the cheaper solution first.

I'm giving up on this thread no ones listening
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Yeah the Redline has worked wonders for me.

I've been trying to get this guy with the prob to try the redline or synthetic before doing anything else!

I have the same prob and when I change my fluid it goes away. Might as well try the cheaper solution first.

I'm giving up on this thread no ones listening
it is their money... let them save a couple of bucks on fluid and spend hundreds on the repairs
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Yeah the Redline has worked wonders for me.

I've been trying to get this guy with the prob to try the redline or synthetic before doing anything else!

I have the same prob and when I change my fluid it goes away. Might as well try the cheaper solution first.

I'm giving up on this thread no ones listening
I am definately listening! I said several times I am going to swap out my cheap fluid for some redline, but i wont have time to do it until ths weekend, i am so busy with school right now Trust me, i really hope that you are right and new fluid will solve all my problems. I will be the first to admit if you are right thanks again, ill put the thread on hold until this weekend, when i have some updates to give you guys
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it is their money... let them save a couple of bucks on fluid and spend hundreds on the repairs
You aren't tossing me under the bus are you? I already run synthetics from bumper to bumper and the only component that wasn't replace that has anything to do with the actuation of the clutch is the clutch master cylinder. Dude with over 35years experience building tranny's said if he had to put $$ on it to replace the CMC. Mine should be here friday/monday. I'll let you know how it goes.
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ok today i took the jeep to a very reputable tranny shop. they have done work for me before and it was all top notch. i rode with the owner as he drove it for a few miles. he said it is absolutely normal. he said when the tranny is in neutral, and the motor is running, all the gears in the tranny are still moving. he said push the clutch in and give it a second or two for the tranny gears to stop spinning, and it should go right in to gear. sure enough, slid in like butter. he said not to worry about a thing, he has seen a bunch of jeeps and they all did the same thing. i know the flaming will begin telling me hes full of it, but i trust him. he is in business to make money, and he knows he could have made money if he told me something was wrong. he has been in the business for over 20 years, and nows his stuff. his son owns a yj and it does the same thing. sooo im gonna take his word for it. let me hear what you all think
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Where does everyone get this redline tranny fluid? I've looked at Auto Zone and Advance and can't find it.
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