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Unread 06-22-2013, 01:40 PM   #1
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Trimming the metal wheel wells?

I want to do a mild front and rear wheel well trim job on my '95 YJ to get more tire travel clearance. I am not talking about the plastic flares..just the metal.

I am not an experienced body guy but I know how to basically cut and trim sheet metal. The problem is that I have not seen any good detailed methods for putting a nice "lip" or inward roll to keep the sharp edges from being exposed after the cuts are made.

It would be appreciated if anyone could steer me to a good (detailed) link with photos, and/or video to explain how to do this, and also list what tools/techniques are required. Thanks! (photo below with flares removed as it sits now)

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Unread 06-22-2013, 02:56 PM   #2
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*bump. good question
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Unread 06-22-2013, 03:39 PM   #3
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Im interested in this too.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 04:05 PM   #4
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Are you gonna put flares back on? If so no need for a lip/roll. Just trim where you want then put a flap wheel on a grinder. Smooth the edge so it' not sharp.

If you want to leave it open you can trim it. Then take 1/4" round stock, cut and bend it to fit the edge. Place it on the underside/back side, weld it in, then do body work(bondo) and paint.

It really all depends on how much you trim. Most if the body sheet metal around the wells is single lair. For the double lair, you trim, stich weld the two pieces together. then grind smooth, bondo, paint.


When i did my comp cut i cut it where i wanted it, then stiched the inner fender to the outer becuse my cut was on the factory spot weld seam, then i ground it smooth, did bondo and sanding. I then bedlined the out side in that area.

I really don't have any specific links or pics. Just something i have learned by doing.
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Unread 06-22-2013, 04:24 PM   #5
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Just cut it off with an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel. You can take a file to clean up the edges. I did some trimming when I installed my TJ flares and used the flare as a template.

About this much came off


Luuca did a write up on TJ flares which covers a lot of what you're lookin at doing

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...15/?highlight=
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:12 PM   #6
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Are you gonna put flares back on? If so no need for a lip/roll. Just trim where you want then put a flap wheel on a grinder. Smooth the edge so it' not sharp.

If you want to leave it open you can trim it. Then take 1/4" round stock, cut and bend it to fit the edge. Place it on the underside/back side, weld it in, then do body work(bondo) and paint.

It really all depends on how much you trim. Most if the body sheet metal around the wells is single lair. For the double lair, you trim, stich weld the two pieces together. then grind smooth, bondo, paint.


When i did my comp cut i cut it where i wanted it, then stiched the inner fender to the outer becuse my cut was on the factory spot weld seam, then i ground it smooth, did bondo and sanding. I then bedlined the out side in that area.

I really don't have any specific links or pics. Just something i have learned by doing.
The flairs are going back on...with some modification of course. Sounds like a lot of work to set up a lip or rounded edge. Good idea though. May just do the cut and smooth idea. Thanks!
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:21 PM   #7
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Just cut it off with an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel. You can take a file to clean up the edges. I did some trimming when I installed my TJ flares and used the flare as a template.

About this much came off


Luuca did a write up on TJ flares which covers a lot of what you're lookin at doing

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...15/?highlight=
Anticanman...This sounds like the easiest way to go. Did you re-use the inner well linings or dump them? If you re-used them was it difficult to adapt them to fit the cuts made? Also, if you tossed them did you use any sound deadener (coating, spray liner, etc.)?

Thanks for the Luuca write-up link as well. Very helpful.

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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:57 PM   #8
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Originally I left the liner intact but the larger opening made it harder to keep mud from building up and trapping moisture in my fender wells. I ripped the liner and sprayed some rustoleum rattlecan undercoating.

Before (only pic I have that shows the hole)


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Nick,

Do your rear shackles contact the bolt on the bottom side of the bumper mount?

OP, I used an angle grinder and a cutting disc like most. You should also get a deburring tool if you feel so inclined.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:36 PM   #10
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Nick,

Do your rear shackles contact the bolt on the bottom side of the bumper mount?
Nope. I have zero contact until the tires bottom out in the fenders.
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Nope. I have zero contact until the tires bottom out in the fenders.
I hate to hijack this thread but what size are your rear shackles? I have the Curries and they are 4.75" eye to eye. I may get some longer booms.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:57 PM   #12
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Mine are a 1" lift at 6" eye to eye.

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Mine are a 1" lift at 6" eye to eye.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...ckles-1379950/
I need to take my own advice and use the handy search function on google. I even posted right below you in that thread and linked another shackle thread.

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Unread 06-24-2013, 06:30 PM   #14
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Hence why I linked to that one and not the one from BrandonYJ.
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Hence why I linked to that one and not the one from BrandonYJ.
Touche good sir, touche.
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