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Unread 01-15-2013, 02:02 AM   #31
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I honestly couldn't tell you.
The Jeep used to be my dads and he got it fixed with someone I don't know. Now the Jeep is mine, but my dad says he doesn't know what the guy did to it either.
He did say that the guy that fixed it had trouble doing something.. but that doesn't really help very much.

It's weird because it was fixed and worked perfectly fine, but then I do this seal it starts happening again.
Are these things linked somehow or is it just bad timing?

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Unread 01-15-2013, 05:41 AM   #32
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He guys thanks a lot this is really helping me out. But I still have some questions.
Let me just summarize so I understand it in my own noob terms.

1: Take out 30mm fill bolt
2: Remove 30mm drain bolt
3: Drain transmission fluid into a bucket until it basically drips and remove metal shavings with finger
**4: is this the step I would try doing the new seal? Once there is no fluid in the transfer case?
5: Replace drain plug
6: Fill new fluid into transfer case using 10w30 Regular ATF from Walmart, 3 quarts to be safe with some kind of special bottle?? How do I get fluid in there? I don't have the spout thing. I'll know it's full because fluid will start coming out of the fill hole.
7: replace fill bolt
8: that's it?

So basically I don't need to know what kind of transmission I have since I'm filling the transfer case or is that totally wrong?

Thanks guys

EDIT: I spoke to a family friend who is a mechanic and he told me to not do the seal because it's really difficult removing the driveshaft, somehting about really small bolts that I need special tools for. You guys are telling me it's really easy. What should I do? I'm not very mechanically inclined, I've only changed the power steering pump in my Jeep (which is leaking again).
Please tell him how easy it was.

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Not 10w30, ATF (auto transmission fluid). Buy the adapter that screws on a regualr 1 quart bottle with a clear hose connected, these are used to fill differentials, they are usually near the fluids should be like 6 bucks.

Yes after you drain fluid you replace the seal. Just research how to change seal, there's plenty of writeups videos pics etc etc. basically you pull the old one then tap the new one in with a large socket or piece of pipe, something the same size as metal part of new seal so that you can seat the new seal flush.

You have a np231 transfer case doesn't matter what tranny but according to one of my charts you should have a ax15.
A 1989 YJ 4.2L might have either the BA10/5, or the AX-15. Production dates before 3-9-1989 should have the BA10/5, later production dates should have the AX-15.

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Yeah still atf. Also it doesn't matter how you put in the driveshaft, its just that it can only go in the exact way you took it out or 180deg the other way. Or you can put your tc in neutral or lift the backend up and turn the wheels so the yoke turns. You will see when you go to put it back in.
Totally incorrect. The driveshaft can go back in the transfer case any way you like. The splines on the transfer case output shaft have no correlation to the yoke position whatsoever.

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I honestly couldn't tell you.
The Jeep used to be my dads and he got it fixed with someone I don't know. Now the Jeep is mine, but my dad says he doesn't know what the guy did to it either.
He did say that the guy that fixed it had trouble doing something.. but that doesn't really help very much.

It's weird because it was fixed and worked perfectly fine, but then I do this seal it starts happening again.
Are these things linked somehow or is it just bad timing?
Completely unrelated.

Need to know which transmission you have.

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Unread 01-15-2013, 08:13 AM   #33
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It would have to be put in the same if it was in gear or on the ground. Not being able to turn the shaft or axle yoke, it would be hard to line up the unjoint and the axle yoke.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 11:12 AM   #34
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It would have to be put in the same if it was in gear or on the ground. Not being able to turn the shaft or axle yoke, it would be hard to line up the unjoint and the axle yoke.
I must've misunderstood. I thought you meant that the front yoke to transfer case spline relationship mattered. My mistake.

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Unread 01-15-2013, 02:46 PM   #35
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A 1989 YJ 4.2L might have either the BA10/5, or the AX-15. Production dates before 3-9-1989 should have the BA10/5, later production dates should have the AX-15.

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How do I find out what production date I have?
I've tried decoding my VIN but I can't seem to find it that way.
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It doesn't matter, really. Just use the link in one of the first few responses in this thread to identify your transmission.

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Unread 01-15-2013, 03:46 PM   #37
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From this picture alone I can tell mine is like the one on the right (AX-15)




EDIT: Apparently it's not popping out of reverse anymore.. I don't know if this has to do with the transmission fluid or something maybe not fully gone through the system after draining or what but my dad took the Jeep for a spin and reversed everywhere. He said it didn't pop out to him. I don't know what's going on but for now everything is ok. Hopefully it stays that way
At least I learned what transmission I have for future reference.
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No worries max, I had a chest cold when I wrote that, so it probably made little sense to begin with. What with the NyQuil and all. Anyway I hope that reverse works for you. The only thing I can think of is maybe the boot is interfering with the shifting.
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Gozz the fluid might have been cold in your transmission or the boot was cold and pushed it out of gear. The atf you put in your transfer case wouldn't effect your reversing.
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So just an update.
The Jeep is still leaking. Is there anywhere else the drops could be coming from or did I install the seal wrong?
I mean it's starting to seem that Jeeps are just meant to leak or something because I couldn't fix my power steering pump leak either after replacing the whole unit.
or just unlucky maybe?
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Do you know anyone with an inspection camera? That'll let you know real quick where is it coming from.

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Do you know anyone with an inspection camera? That'll let you know real quick where is it coming from.

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It is possible you could have damaged the mating surface while removing or installing the seal. Or the shaft could be scored and the new seal isn't sealing on it right.

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To put ATF in the transfer case I took the lid off the bottle, drilled a small hole in it, put the lid back on, and literally squeezed the fluid into the transfer case. Sometimes a Dawn detergent bottle will work or a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner with the angled spout. Don't waste your money buying a special item to fill it.
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So just an update.
The Jeep is still leaking. Is there anywhere else the drops could be coming from or did I install the seal wrong?
I mean it's starting to seem that Jeeps are just meant to leak or something because I couldn't fix my power steering pump leak either after replacing the whole unit.
or just unlucky maybe?
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