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Unread 12-21-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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ive got a 95 yj i just got with a 2.5 and im not sure what trans its a 5-speed a tx5 maybe? im not sure but it grinds in to 3rd and 4th bad and sometimes 1st and 2nd on a hill with the cluch pedal out and in gear it still can roll backwards is this a clutch issue? and it bucks from time to time i think it might be clutch problems as well i need some help thanks-airman first class molloy

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Unread 12-21-2012, 02:50 PM   #2
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AX5 tranny. Lucky you with an external clutch slave style hydraulic system. Check your clutch master reservoir make sure it is full. If not full, fill it and bleed the clutch hydraulic system and of course try to figure out where the leak is. Way low on fluid (Brake fluid DOT 3/4 in the master) in the clutch master would imply a leak. Make sure system full and bled, then try driving/shifting again and report back with results.

No big surprise otherwise with grinding as you describe, you likely have a lotta miles on and it may be time to consider rebuilding. But of course, check for the lube level in the tranny, change it, see if any difference in action, etc.
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Unread 12-21-2012, 03:03 PM   #3
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And don't rely on engine compression on a 2.5 to hold it in place when parked on a hill.
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AX5 tranny. Lucky you with an external clutch slave style hydraulic system. Check your clutch master reservoir make sure it is full. If not full, fill it and bleed the clutch hydraulic system and of course try to figure out where the leak is. Way low on fluid (Brake fluid DOT 3/4 in the master) in the clutch master would imply a leak. Make sure system full and bled, then try driving/shifting again and report back with results.

No big surprise otherwise with grinding as you describe, you likely have a lotta miles on and it may be time to consider rebuilding. But of course, check for the lube level in the tranny, change it, see if any difference in action, etc.

Exactly what I was thinking as well. If you aren't in a position to buy new or rebuild if the problem persists feel free to pm me whenever as I have an AX5 from a 91 YJ with a clutch that has less than 2500 miles on it I would be willing to send your way. After it is pulled and my AX 15 is in of course
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Unread 12-21-2012, 03:16 PM   #5
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i checked the fluid level for the clutch its full but it may need to be bled the pedal does feel somewhat soft i also tried earlier today to check what it looked like in the trans but i couldn't get the torx screw out to check it with out stripping it
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Unread 12-21-2012, 04:24 PM   #6
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i checked the fluid level for the clutch its full but it may need to be bled the pedal does feel somewhat soft i also tried earlier today to check what it looked like in the trans but i couldn't get the torx screw out to check it with out stripping it
It is always good to make sure you can get the fill plug out, before you drain the thing. However, you can always pull off your shift tower on top and fill thru there, you just have to not put in too much lube. This is the next thing to do.

Since your hydraulic system is full, try a bleed and see if that helps. You can always get the one piece, pre bled clutch master/hose/slave unit and bolt that in. Easy. Will edit you in a link all about the external slave unit. Remember clutch hydraulics can fail without showing a leak as well, they leak back internally past the seals and you don't get hydraulic pressure adequate to operate the system. I am getting the feeling from what you've said that this is going to be primarily a tranny problem. Worn clutch would show failure by slipping as well.

Read thru this from the FAQ: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/b...-unit-1112094/
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Unread 12-24-2012, 06:49 PM   #7
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aftter working and trying to figure out the ways of the external slave the bleeder will not tighten back up it just turns endlessly
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Unread 12-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #8
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on top of that i found a small piece of rubber what looks like half a seal in the bottom of the master res
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Easy job to replace the hydraulic system in your case. Two bolts to master two to slave and at least one holding the hose to front of the bell.
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yes I'm a some guy and have always put gasket sealer on my surfaces before mating
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Unread 12-24-2012, 09:00 PM   #10
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thats whats going to happen oh well easy job to do at least thanks for all the help your one of the most helpful jeepers ive met
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aftter working and trying to figure out the ways of the external slave the bleeder will not tighten back up it just turns endlessly
Sort of a strange situation there, maybe the plastic threads in the tower stripped? But you already know the easy remedy. Couldn't post these up yesterday as I was lounging out at Pokai bay and on my iPhone. Also updated the external slave thread photos cited above with some more photos.
Just for kicks, consider saving your bleeder set screw from the slave, and the hose. Some Jeeper will be needing it at some point.





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Unread 12-26-2012, 11:39 AM   #12
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i went ahead and got to master and slave the shops i went to didnt have the full set or it would take a week to get them in so i just got them separate and i'm installing today
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It should work well enough that way, if needed for ease you can pull the hose from the Jeep, do the assembly and likely the bleeding on the bench then bolt the whole thing back in. Otherwise make sure you bench bleed the master.
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Unread 12-26-2012, 01:48 PM   #14
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ok so far i pulled the whole thing out (line and all) i have the master taken off the line and im fighting the pin for the slave. whats the best way to bench bleed the master?
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Generally there will be some instructions in the box. Likely a threaded plastic plug rolling around or already in the outlet where the hose goes. Best to mount in vice, fill reservoir and slowly move the piston (rod) in and out and you'll see bubbles come up in the reservoir. Takes as much strokes as it needs to get out all the bubbles. You could google bench bleed as well and see what else comes up. I've even injected brake fluid down the bore with needle/syringe on difficult ones. Then connect to hose, let hose fill without emptying res, connect to slave and bleed slave. Cap it off and bolt it in.
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