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Unread 08-22-2013, 03:33 PM   #31
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Tried this. Jeep doesn't stall. It just acts like it's in Neutral still.
If it goes in 1-3 but not in 4 and 5 its not your clutch its your transmission. It needs rebuilt or replaced. You should do the clutch while you have the trans down though. If you want another ax5 they can be had cheap. If you want an ax15 check que's links. Its a great upgrade but its gonna cost a few hundred atleast and takes tike to gather parts

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[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 08-22-2013, 05:59 PM   #32
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It doesn't go in 3, just 1, 2 and reverse. Is it possible that the clutch is engaging in those 3 but not the other 3? Also Reverse is hard to get into to, I have to jiggle it and really mess with it to get it in.
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Unread 08-22-2013, 06:04 PM   #33
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It doesn't go in 3, just 1, 2 and reverse. Is it possible that the clutch is engaging in those 3 but not the other 3? Also Reverse is hard to get into to, I have to jiggle it and really mess with it to get it in.
Nope sorry mam its your trans. The clutch would do the same thing in all gears

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[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 08-22-2013, 07:11 PM   #34
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anyone else have a second opinion on this one. I see a bunch of threads with similar problems where people said it was the clutch.

I guess my problem is that if it is just the clutch then I'm fairly confident I can fix that myself. But if it's an entire Trany rebuild then I may be in over my head and I will just take it to a shop or look for a new AX5 to throw in.
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Unread 08-22-2013, 07:27 PM   #35
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anyone else have a second opinion on this one. I see a bunch of threads with similar problems where people said it was the clutch.

I guess my problem is that if it is just the clutch then I'm fairly confident I can fix that myself. But if it's an entire Trany rebuild then I may be in over my head and I will just take it to a shop or look for a new AX5 to throw in.
I would say pull the tranny and see. It could be in the clutch and just not be as severe at lower speeds. But I really am unsure. Worst case you take it in. And you save yourself money on the removal cost.

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Unread 08-23-2013, 05:43 AM   #36
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You check a clutch by putting the front bumper up against a tree or wall and putting it into 4th and if the clutch is good it will stall. You have a clutch issue.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 05:54 AM   #37
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It grabs fine in lower gears and acts like neutral in 4th and 5th. For the clutch the same parts are in use the same exact way no matter the gear. Its a friction disc pressed up against the flywheel. How would it work fine in one gear and not another. I know there is more stress on it in 4th but it is not grabbing at all and is acting like it is in neutral. If I am wrong I am ok with that but can anyone explain why it would be fine in 2nd but not in 4th since its the same disc against the same flywheel. I have only has a clutch go out once on me personally and it was not in my jeep but it acted the same in all gears. It slipped like hell through all the gears but you could feel some resistance.
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[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 08-23-2013, 06:45 AM   #38
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You check a clutch by putting the front bumper up against a tree or wall and putting it into 4th and if the clutch is good it will stall. You have a clutch issue.
I don't even need the tree. If I start in 4th and let go of the clutch the Jeep doesn't even move, engine doesn't cut out, it just idles.

So I have one person voting clutch and one person voting Trans. Anyone with enough knowledge who cares to break the tie? I would love to start dropping the trans today since I'm off work, but I'm hesitant to do so without being fairly certain what the issue is.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 07:57 AM   #39
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If you drop the Trans you will be able to see the clutch to assess its condition. Eithier way the trans has got to come out.
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[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 08-23-2013, 08:09 AM   #40
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Yep. X2 with Siva.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:57 AM   #41
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I hate to revisit old issues in this thread, but I went to turn the jeep around in the garage to start pulling the trans, and the thing is idling like complete garbage (which is a new problem). If you remember from earlier in the thread I put in a new oxygen sensor and installed a Cat I had lying around. The cat was not designed for the 2.5L engine, It was supposed to go in a 90 4.0. Since I did those updates I have driven the vehicle less than 1 mile, it ran fine during that test drive.

So anyone else think the Cat that I threw in is causing the idle problems?

I should add that the idle problems have nothing to do with the trans, and it seems to get worse the longer it runs. The first 5 or so seconds are ok, then it sputters and the engine cuts.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #42
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Not a chance unless it is plugged. You need to check your fault codes and do a battery reset.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 11:18 AM   #43
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It's official this Jeep hates me. I pull out of the garage to turn the jeep around and the clutch completely goes out on me, no 1st or 2nd gear now. The problem is the Jeep didn't make it back into the garage before it quit and now it's sitting in the middle of my driveway on a slight incline going into garage. Which means I'm going to have to recruit some muscle to get it back in.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 11:22 AM   #44
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Not a chance unless it is plugged. You need to check your fault codes and do a battery reset.

On the idle issue, I pulled the cat real quick to make sure and that wasn't it. Fault codes give me nothing just 12, 33, 55. Honestly I think it's the gas or the pump. This jeep has been sitting for 5 years and I did drain the tank, then put in 5 gallons. But I may have missed some and it may be causing the idle issue. Maybe if I put 5 more in it will straighten itself out.

One step at a time I guess.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 11:53 AM   #45
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Put some fuel conditioner and stabilizer in it if you must but you would be better to completely drain it and put fresh in.
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[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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