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Unread 10-30-2009, 10:34 AM   #1
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towing with tow dolly...what in neutral?

I am going to tow an 92 jeep wranlger...4.0/ automatic, what all needs to go in neutral? I will be using a tow dolly.

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Unread 10-30-2009, 11:24 AM   #2
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A tow dolly as in the front wheels are off the ground right??? Put the transfer case in neutral and the tranny in park.

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You could be 100% sure no problems will occur and simply pull the rear drive shaft from the axle end and strap it up so it doesn't fall out of the transfer case.
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Some versions of the 231 transfer case do not have a "true" neutral. Meaning that when the tcase is in N, it is disconnected from the transmission but the front and rear are still connected. In this case the rear wheels would be trying to force the front to turn making for spectacular carnage in the drive line.

To test this jack all 4 off the ground. With the tcase in neutral spin the left front tire and see if eith of the rears move. If they do you will need to drop the rear driveshaft (which I do anyway) Just take off the pumpkin and strap it up

or get one of these, if you don't have an SYE

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...bCategoryName=
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Best way is to remove the rear driveshaft. Another option is to drag it backwards in 2wd (back wheels on dolly). EDIT: This is assuming you don't have one of those scary dollies that requires you leave the column unlocked

In my jeep having the 231 in neutral locks the front and rear shafts, and then something interesting happens when you try to pull the jeep

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Also make sure that you actually have straps that fit whatever sized tires you are running. Conventional tow dolly straps are not very big.

I've got 3 sets of them for different vehicles.

1) The huge set that are good up to a 36" tire - Ebay seller
2) The tiny set that are for the low profile tires and 16" rims on my sons car - Ebay Seller
3) The mid sized ones that came with the dolly - have the buckle on the side, I hate those ones since the buckle can slip.
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What will happen if i dont remove drive shaft? Will it be ok? I've heard both.

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did you read post #3?
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What will happen if i dont remove drive shaft? Will it be ok? I've heard both.

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did you read post #3?
I agree! Read post #3 again!

I would ALWAYS disconnect the rear driveshaft if I were to use a dolly, no exceptions!

Personally, I see no reason to use a tow dolly though. Your Jeep was designed to have a "flat-tow" capability. Why not use it?

I dug out my '91 Owner's Manual and quoted the following verbatim.

Page 125 of the 1991 Jeep Wrangler Owner's Manual states;

1. Shift transfer case to 2H and check that the 4WD light goes out.

2. Drive vehicle 10 ft. (3 m) rearward and then 10 ft. (3 m) forward to make sure the axle is disengaged.

3. Shift transmission to Neutral.

4. Turn off engine with the ignition key in the unlocked OFF position.
(NOT in the "LOCK" position, the steering wheel must be able to turn while flat towing!)

5. Shift transfer case lever from 2H to N (Neutral) position.

6. Shift manual transmission into gear or automatic transmission into P (Park).

WARNING: With the transfer case in N (Neutral) postion, the vehicle could roll unexpectedly. The parking brake should always be applied before the tow bar is attached.

7. Attach vehicle to the tow vehicle with tow bar.



You may want to cut & paste that into a word document, then print it out to keep in the glovebox.

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Thanks Max. One thing to add though. If you have an Aussie locker, or similar, in the front AND have the transfer case version that connects the front and rear when in neutral then you will have to drop at least one drive shaft completely or both at the pumpkin.
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Thanks Max. One thing to add though. If you have an Aussie locker, or similar, in the front AND have the transfer case version that connects the front and rear when in neutral then you will have to drop at least one drive shaft completely or both at the pumpkin.
Good point!

I really should preface that kind of response with a disclaimer that it applies to "stock" style axle assemblies, or those with "selectable" lockers only.

Automatic style lockers (Aussies, Lockright, etc.) are a different animal!

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So, disconnect the rear drive shaft. Put transfer case in "N" and tranny in "P" and i should be able to use a tow dolly. I 've already rented it from uhaul and dont want to lose 200 dollars. But i do want to get it right.
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So, disconnect the rear drive shaft. Put transfer case in "N" and tranny in "P" and i should be able to use a tow dolly. I 've already rented it from uhaul and dont want to lose 200 dollars. But i do want to get it right.
If you use a dolly & disconnect the rear driveshaft, it doesn't matter what gear selection you use in the tranny or T-case.

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So, disconnect the rear drive shaft. Put transfer case in "N" and tranny in "P" and i should be able to use a tow dolly. I 've already rented it from uhaul and dont want to lose 200 dollars. But i do want to get it right.
Disconnect the driveshaft, put the tranny in park and the tcase in 4wd. Helps it want to stay on the dolly.
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Here is a whole thread on the subject. The answer and details are about halfway down

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/y...roblem-595457/
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Unread 10-30-2009, 03:58 PM   #15
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thanks, i will be disconnecting the rear drive shaft...better safe than sorry.
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