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Unread 01-05-2013, 07:49 AM   #1
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too much all at once?

A few months ago i did a 4.5" lift on my 93 yj. Im not really all that satisfied with it, so ive been thinking about changing to a soa and getting springs closer to stock height. I know i need to do a lot of research to make sure i do it right.

What im thinking though, is swapping an 8.8, beefing up my front axle and regearing it and adding high steer along with changing the brake system to allow for rear disc brakes. Im also planning on adding an sye and getting new drive shafts.

Ive got a 4.0, and i dont ever plan on running any thing bigger than 35s. Right now all ive done as far as taking it offroad is playing in the mud, but i want to be able to and actually take it on some trails. I realize this wont get done in a day, ive been looking for an 8.8 but so far the cheapest ive found is 250 so im still looking.

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Unread 01-05-2013, 07:58 AM   #2
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A few months ago i did a 4.5" lift on my 93 yj. Im not really all that satisfied with it, so ive been thinking about changing to a soa and getting springs closer to stock height. I know i need to do a lot of research to make sure i do it right.

What im thinking though, is swapping an 8.8, beefing up my front axle and regearing it and adding high steer along with changing the brake system to allow for rear disc brakes. Im also planning on adding an sye and getting new drive shafts.

Ive got a 4.0, and i dont ever plan on running any thing bigger than 35s. Right now all ive done as far as taking it offroad is playing in the mud, but i want to be able to and actually take it on some trails. I realize this wont get done in a day, ive been looking for an 8.8 but so far the cheapest ive found is 250 so im still looking.
sounds like a good plan man. There is tons of information on here about soa's. btw 250 for a good 8.8 is a pretty good deal.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:40 AM   #3
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Dont yall have 1/2 price days at the U pull it yards? I know I read on here of others in Cali going on those days.
Cause 250 for a axle is way high. 85 here complete with everything and the driveshaft.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:49 AM   #4
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I think you have a good plan but like you said, make sure you do the research. There is a plethora of information on this site for SOA. As for the axle, I picked mine up from the local junkyard. I just told them what year Explorer, what ratio, and they pulled it for me and loaded it on the truck. I did pay $200 for it but that's how much they go for where I use to live, between $150-200.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #5
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I paid 175 for my 8.8 with two sets of gears guy was happynto get rid of stuff lying around.

Steve 707 what trans do yu have? What were you planning on for the regear? Im running 4.10s on a daily driven tf999 and a little piece of me wishes i went with 3.73s.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 12:46 PM   #6
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$250 in CA is pretty average from a junk yard.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 01:06 PM   #7
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I paid 175 for my 8.8 with two sets of gears guy was happynto get rid of stuff lying around.

Steve 707 what trans do yu have? What were you planning on for the regear? Im running 4.10s on a daily driven tf999 and a little piece of me wishes i went with 3.73s.
I think i have an ax-15, its a 5 speed, 4.0. I was thinking running 4.10s, if i pass a weld test this year my dd will be my welding rig. Otherwise ill have to get a beater so i can stop putting so many miles on my jeep.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 01:32 PM   #8
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I've been in a similar predicament.

The easiest and cheapest way to do it is to get a high pinion YJ Dana 30 and 8.8 geared to 4.10s.

I bought a 31 spline, disk brake 8.8 that had just been re geared to 4.56 from a buddy who's truck project took a different route for $180. I also installed an Aussie locker. So I had to re gear the 4.10 D30 I have. All in all, it's about $250 for the re-gear of the front, $40 per ball joint (x4) and $200 in unit bearings. Then about $200 for brackets/diff cover for the 8.8, $200 in brake parts and $240 for the locker. After you have built the axles, the most inexpensive part of axle swap, and a SOA swap, is the bracketry. I think your best bet is to swap axles into your current setup and wheel it like that with 35s and really work out the bugs. After that, see if you still want SOA. SOA is about a $1,500 project, at minimum, and only about $250 are spring perches and shock tabs. You may find that 4.5" is plenty for 35s.

I'm running 2.5" Old Man Emu springs, 5/8" lift boomerangs and a 1" body lift with Q78s (roughly 35.5x10.5x15). Some trimming required but its mostly a matter of sheet metal.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 03:58 PM   #9
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Whats wrong with it now? What brand lift? whats not satifiying about it? I rock crawl in New England with 4" leafs 1" shackle 1" BL and 35s 8.8 and theres no place I havent been able to go that I've wanted to...

Before you drop a @#$% load of money, can you fix your current set up? Doesn't sound like you really wheel currently. You say 4.5" lift but your profile says 31" tires... A bit small for that much lift...

Shocks. Tires, sping bolt torque setting, leaf brand, all makes a hugh difference...

Just a thought. SOA, isn't a weeknd job nor is it cheap...(you've already made not of)
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Unread 01-05-2013, 04:15 PM   #10
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This was a couple months ago. Ive have 3.5" black diamond springs and what i thought were 1" shackles from bersk, but it seems like they gave me more than '5". Im also running cheap procomp shocks, i had to mount the rear shocks upside down because the body of them interfeered with my axel. I torqued everything to the specifications for bd that i found online.
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Unread 01-06-2013, 08:18 AM   #11
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This was a couple months ago. Ive have 3.5" black diamond springs and what i thought were 1" shackles from bersk, but it seems like they gave me more than '5". Im also running cheap procomp shocks, i had to mount the rear shocks upside down because the body of them interfeered with my axel. I torqued everything to the specifications for bd that i found online.

OME and RE springs are some of the best, Black diamond are not terrible but are much stiffer. As with cheap shocks as well... Good quality shocks make a huge difference. Also some shocks require a specific mounting up or down to operate correctly (just a thought)

Also many of us only torque the leaf spring bolts to 35- 45#. The factory recommended 95# makes the ride VERY stiff...
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Unread 01-06-2013, 01:15 PM   #12
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I think ill find an 8.8 replace my shocks and see how it rides then. ill make sure i regear my front as well.
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Unread 01-10-2013, 08:09 PM   #13
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One last question, if i plan on running a beefed up hpd30, should i try to find one out of an xj or does it even matter as long as its an hpd30?
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One last question, if i plan on running a beefed up hpd30, should i try to find one out of an xj or does it even matter as long as its an hpd30?
You already have a HP30... its fine...
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Unread 01-10-2013, 08:27 PM   #15
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You can get a bracket that mounts to the axle shock mount that pushes your shock out so the axle tubes don't interfere with the shock body. Rubicon Express makes one that I run on my YJ.
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