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Unread 03-08-2012, 12:47 PM   #1
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Tie rod flip v/s dro pitman arm?

I recently installed bastard packs on my 89 yj, and had seen that most are not installing a drop pitman arm. Personally I think that something is needed to get the drag link a little more level because i have a good bit of bump steer.

So my question is if a tie rod flip kit would help? From looking at the front end it looks as if I would gain not only ground clearance but also it would help level out the drag link.


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Unread 03-08-2012, 01:23 PM   #2
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Most guys with the tie rod flip use a stock pitman arm because a dropped would interfere with the tie rod when the drivers side suspension is compressed. I know that would be the case for me because my dropped pitman arm is already having a slight interference with the tie rod under full stuff on the drivers side.

The track bar doesn't having anything to do with the steering. I think you're referring to the drag link which, for our jeeps, connects the pitman arm to the tie rod. On other axles they attach to the knuckle.
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The track bar doesn't having anything to do with the steering. I think you're referring to the drag link which, for our jeeps, connects the pitman arm to the tie rod. On other axles they attach to the knuckle.
You would be correct, I did mean the Drag link. The track bar already went to the scrap yard haha!
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You would be correct, I did mean the Drag link. The track bar already went to the scrap yard haha!
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Anybody ever done the Tie rod flip? How did it work out for you?
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This was with the goferit inserts. No dropped pitman. Also has the Rustys steering conversion on it. but you get the idea.
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Anybody ever done the Tie rod flip? How did it work out for you?
The tie rod flip is great and anyone with any lift should do it. It gets that bar up and out of the way. Just think about how offroading can get logs/rocks wedged down there and how this will get them slightly further from harm's way.

Mine has worked out great. As mentioned, it can be problematic with a dropped pitman arm. I have a dropped pitman arm and do get a slight collision when I flex out my suspension. It isn't anything bad.

I have just over 5" of suspension lift so dropped pitman arm and tie rod flip is great. My drag link is fairly level and I don't get any bump steer.
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This was with the goferit inserts. No dropped pitman. Also has the Rustys steering conversion on it. but you get the idea.
Thanks that was what I was looking for. The pics showed me exactly what I needed. Mine is about the same as your before pic. I wasn't going to run both Flip and drop Pitman, I was just trying to figure the best way and I figured would help kill 2 birds (Tie rod Higher and Drag link closer to level) If anyone else has any thoughts on this please let me know. Thanks
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You can see where the drop pitman could cause issues after a TR flip. It easily gave me at least 2 additional inches of clearance.
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If anyone else has any thoughts on this please let me know. Thanks
A great mod. It just might not fit with factory rims because of the backspacing. But most have ditched the rims in favor of better spacing, better/ more suitable rims to accommodate larger tires, so the rim.clearance on the inside is not an issue mostly.
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Any threads or links on doing the tie rod flip? Getting a lot of junk when i search.
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