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Isocrates (ancient Greek philosopher 436-338 BC) "Democracy is destroying itself because freedom and equality are abused by teaching its citizens to consider impudence as a right, illegality as freedom, audacity of speech as equality, and anarchy as bliss."


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sorry...editting last post

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Not my write up, but now one of my jeeps losing a BA and gaining an AX-> http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f19/y...ite-up-312203/
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Today I decided to document how I changed the Emergency Brake shoes for in this case the 1999 Ford Explorer 8.8 axle.
This is easier to do I am sure if you remove the axle, but I found it to be fast and relatively easy if you have good hand/eye coordination, decent tools, and willingness to experiment.

Here’s how I did it.

This is the starting point, with the tire and the rotor off.

Move underneath and look up. You will see a spring on the bottom and the adjuster star. Turn the star UP towards you and that tightens it and brings the bottom of the shoes together.

Next look behind the hub and see that there are clips with a rod locked into them. The rod comes through from the rear and is secured on the front of the pad.

Here is the rear of the assembly. See the round tab? That is the rear of the rod, and a great place to pull to through from, or push it in when you reclip it later. You will need pressure on it when you put it back on the spring clip. NOTE on this ford 8.8 there is a rubber grommet on the bottom, that is where you adjust the parking brake when the wheel is ON and where you get to the adjuster when the grommet is pulled.

Now use your needle nose pliers and pop the spring clip out on both sides.

Now go back underneath and remove the bottom spring and adjuster. Make sure you remember the adjuster orientation, but the star usually goes towards the front.
To get the adjuster, take the spring out first. Nice to have needle nose or brake pliers. The loss of the bottom spring and adjuster pulls the pads together violently. Make sure you are wearing gloves.


Now take your pliers and pull the TOP front spring.


Then wiggle the pads with strength…to get one out of joint WITHOUT disturbing the spreading levers that activate the ebrake.





You get these wiggled enough; you can get pliers behind and unhook the REAR spring.


Now, clean the whole thing with brake cleaner and inventory your parts.


Reassembly is slightly different.
Slide new pads into place, and hook the rear spring.
Wiggle them into place as best as possible, and reattach the bottom spring and adjuster, and spread the adjuster a couple of turns to spread the pads. This is tough to get back in, and takes some tugging and pushing. A second set of hands would have been nice here.



Now reinstall the side clip springs to hold the assembly in place. Push the rod through from the rear, and if you spread the pads with the adjuster apart far enough, you will have good room to squeeze the clip back in place on each side over each rod. You will need to keep one hand on the pliers and one had keeping pressure on the rear of the rod to jamb it all together, but then the pliers angle it back together.
What’s left? The TOP spring and that is the easiest. Just get it wiggled in under the action levers and hook it up with brake pliers or needle nose.
I then taped the pads and primed/painted the assembly.
Enjoy!


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post #139 of Old 04-02-2010, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
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Today we had to do some tunnel modifications for the Atlas and put the shifters in.







My good friend James builds electronic systems and computers. He stopped by to neaten up and tweek the harness and do some mods to it. We have to build a control box for my towing brake system. The original installer cobbed it in and it was shorting me out all the time. We are building some controls and aux ports.



After he modified the harness, I was able to get ready for the speaker connections! New ones!


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Nice !! Your further along than I am, I hope to get there by summers end....

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/m...-build-849557/

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nvm..off-topic.

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post #142 of Old 04-03-2010, 06:44 AM
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IT CAN BE DONE!!! You can do it. As stated before, I am NOT a mechanic. I am however reading, using Jeep Forum and other sources, and using Haynes, and the best part....the FOUR PART FSM SERIES for the 91 Jeep that I found on ebay buy it now for $45.





Take the plunge!!!
Great work so far. I'll be doing that to my YJ someday.

I love those FSM's, they can be much more helpful than the Hayne's manual.

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First time I have come across this build, very cool.
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post #144 of Old 04-05-2010, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
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First time I have come across this build, very cool.
Thanks Boss!

Took a few days off but I am back at it this week. Ordered a TJ shifter boot and torqued to atlas yokes to 150 ft-lbs. Next I need to find some bezels!

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Today I decided to document how I changed the Emergency Brake shoes for in this case the 1999 Ford Explorer 8.8 axle.
Thanks for the excellent write-up on this. I will definitely use this on my tear down and rebuild. Good stuff!
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Thanks 91. It is a pain in the rear. I will tell you that the photos of the wiggle out portion to get to the rear spring does not at all show the effort or tuggng/twisting involved! Point is it can be done and relatively fast, but with some effort. The biggest part is knowing what you are getting in to. Thanks!

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Technical note for those looking at the brake master cylinder change.

As the tech article I have attached to the thread says, you need adapter fittings to mate the 1985 Ford E-350 Motorhome Master Cylinder to the brake line fittings that are stock on a 91 YJ.

I took my coil brake lines from the proportioning valve to the master cylinder, along WITH the MC to NAPA.

The result is that the following fittings are required ( and now installed )

for the rear, you need a female 1/2 -20 to a male 5/8 - 18 adapter.

for the front, you need a female 1/2 - 20 to a male 3/8 - 24 adapter.

FYI.

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HOLY COW. I bought a few cans of Duplicolor Vynil and Fabric paint today at Advance Auto.

WOW. This stuff is great, dries fast, and has not come off on my hands after a few minutes of dry time handling.

I HAD a grey interior and figured grey would look bad with my black and red look, so I painted it.

WOW. Pics to follow.

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Sorta off topic...

But what brand of epoxy did you use on your garage floor? Did it go on easy, and how is it holding up "x" amount of months later? Im looking to do mine in the next few weeks but theres so many different brands...
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When you get the YJ on the rode tell us if you get aney brake light problem on dash? With the 8.8 and the 350 master cylender. And i still cant wate too se this jeep on the rode.
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