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Unread 12-15-2008, 07:31 PM   #16
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are there any jeep clubs up near where you live? if so i'm sure you could get someone to weld the perches on for a 6 pack.

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Unread 12-15-2008, 07:55 PM   #17
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While the super35 kit addresses the most common failure areas is certainly doesnt address them all. Its still got a small ring and pinion and the housings are very weak. If you do it, check the housing for straightness and truss it well if you want to give it any chance of survival.
This purdy much sums up what I was going to say. A truss if right on. The turdy 5 tubes are very weak and a large contributor to failed shafts due to extreme flexing.

and fwiw... $1300 is about what I have into my 8.8 with doing all the work myself, excluding doing the gear setting. But this also includes my Detroit locker!

OP... you never said if this is a used duper 35 for $500? Or some other kind of deal?



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Unread 12-15-2008, 07:56 PM   #18
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Is some company now selling new S35's for ~$500?

Or is somebody going to sell you one they no longer need?
Did you miss this?
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:11 PM   #19
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Did you miss this?
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16120_104.htm

and there was another one posted earlier in the thread
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:13 PM   #20
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according to your profile, you've got 3.73 gears. I'm pretty sure most explorer 8.8s are 3.73. so that would knock off the regearing cost.
3.07s, and if I were to swap in an 8.8 I would be re-gearing front and rear. No point in re-gearing to something not enough.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:14 PM   #21
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Ah ha. Looks like they are now selling them without Locker. The kits used to be much closer to $1000.oo and up with different lockers.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:26 PM   #22
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http://www.quadratec.com/products/16120_104.htm

and there was another one posted earlier in the thread
BTW... you may want to check if those are for stock applications that use 27 spline set ups, or if they are 'replacement' shafts for a previous super 35 set up with 30 spline shafts.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:39 PM   #23
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and there was another one posted earlier in the thread
Ahh, now I'm getting the picture.

You didn't mean that you were going to get a Super 35 kit like the thread title mentions - you were looking at Superiors D35 chromo shaft kits. You don't get a locker with the axle kits unlike the Super kits.

BTW: One of my very best friends & wheelin' buddies is who designed that kit. He sometimes hangs out here on the TJ forum & goes by mrblaine (Blaine Johnson). He also designed the Super 88 kit and other nice axle upgrades.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 08:47 PM   #24
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BTW... you may want to check if those are for stock applications that use 27 spline set ups, or if they are 'replacement' shafts for a previous super 35 set up with 30 spline shafts.
Randy - those are 27 spline chromo shaft kits. Basically they replace the stock shafts with chromo shafts - you still have c-clip axles.

I have a friend here in SD who's a tester & has had good success with them.

He likes to hangout in this area of the board & goes by 4x4grey88 (Jimmy).

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showt...14660&page=695
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Unread 12-15-2008, 09:02 PM   #25
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http://www.quadratec.com/products/16120_104.htm

and there was another one posted earlier in the thread
The quadratec part you list is just a chro shaft 27 spline c-clip replacement kit. The other that was listed from 4wheelparts is infact a super 35 kit (30 spline c-clip elim), but does not include the carrier which you do need if you have a stock 27 spline carrier. $500 bucks for either doesn't get you to a super 35. Be careful of those details they could be costly.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 10:30 PM   #26
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1300 for an 8.8...lol

i got my 8.8 for 200. yukon gears+ install kit were 200 (yea..for both, pirate4x4 vendor). install was 200. and perches were 20. welding was free, but at most should only cost 20 bucks. also locker was 250

so ive got about 800 in my 8.8.

theres no point in putting money into the dana 35...especially 500 bucks. your still left with a weak ring and pinion, and housing.
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Unread 12-15-2008, 11:02 PM   #27
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does anybody make axle gears in 30 spline for the stock carrier?
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Unread 12-16-2008, 06:50 AM   #28
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1300 for an 8.8...lol

i got my 8.8 for 200. yukon gears+ install kit were 200 (yea..for both, pirate4x4 vendor). install was 200. and perches were 20. welding was free, but at most should only cost 20 bucks. also locker was 250

so ive got about 800 in my 8.8.

theres no point in putting money into the dana 35...especially 500 bucks. your still left with a weak ring and pinion, and housing.
so axle 200, gear and install 350 here (only one 4x4 shop in few 100km, if I order from the US add shipping duties and brokerage fees) re-gear is $300. I have never seen purchases for $20 and don't have the tools to make them. Free welding... nope.

Yes it can be done cheaper then 1300, but not without a welder in the winter in a snow covered driveway
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Unread 12-16-2008, 08:52 AM   #29
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so axle 200, gear and install 350 here (only one 4x4 shop in few 100km, if I order from the US add shipping duties and brokerage fees) re-gear is $300. I have never seen purchases for $20 and don't have the tools to make them. Free welding... nope.

Yes it can be done cheaper then 1300, but not without a welder in the winter in a snow covered driveway
It seems your already dead set on building a D35. There are ways to do the 8.8 cheap. Some options have already been given, but you keep saying no. Thats fine, your the one who has to drive it and its your money.

Yes it can be done for cheap.

Settle on 4.10:1 gears. The 8.8 is factory geared to 4.11. Get a D30 from a 4cyl YJ and bolt it in. Want lockers? Get an Aussie or similar lunchbox locker for each axle. Figure $250 each if you look around.

Do as mean max said, set your pinion angle, and drive it to a shop to get the welds laid. And no, not the 4x4 shop, to any local shop that has a competent welder on the payroll, or best case senario, you find a friends of a friend who will do it. Benefit of the doubt, we'll call it $75. There are bunch of different bracket kits available. Take your pick.

Ask around for help or recommendations now before you start collecting parts. You'd be surprised how it will get back to you that your looking for something. I just picked up an LS1 for with 38k on it for $700. How? I mentioned to everyone I met that I was looking for one over a year ago.

Look, my point is that yes. This can be done cheap. It seems you already know what your gonna do. You saw that some people have over a grand into their 8.8's and for some reason that number is stuck in your head. Which is wrong, BE CREATIVE. I have UNDER $400 in mine. It has all new brakes, calipers, hoses, lines, 4.88's, RockCrusher diff cover, fully welded tubes, MORE brackets, Yukon shafts, painted, welded, mini spool, and topped off with Royal Purple Gear oil. And no I do not own a welder, I didn't have a garage at the time, I had a gravel drive way. I don't own a shop. I had a lot of help and recalled some favors and did some new favors for people. (Yes it was all legal).

As to the title of this thread? 8.8 hands down. A super 35 (If you actually get a Super 35 and not just replacement 27 spline shafts) MIGHT last with 35's. Depending on your driving style (I know, almost everyone here, "Will be nice to the skinny pedal" or "Not gonna do any hard lines") terrain, and even the condition of the D35 housing as it is now. They are easy to bend, be sure to check it before you put anything into it. Also, if you get a real S35 kit (30 spline) and you break an axle, your kinda screwed until they ship you another one, or you buy a spare set of shafts. $500 ish for shafts. If you just go with the 27 spline replacement shafts, you might as well flush the money down the toilet. If your gonna polish a turd, at least don't halfa$$ it. Get a real S35 kit, 30 spline with a locker. oh, but wait.... Now your at your magical $1300 for the rear axle when you figure setting up the diff for the new locker....

Go with the 8.8 and thank us later.

Personally, I wouldn't waste any money on a S35. Cause no matter how much you polish it, you still have a D35.
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