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Unread 08-28-2007, 09:03 PM   #1
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STUPID JEEP + STUPID OWNER = Problems

So, I got the TPS replaced the other weekend. I went to start up ye’ ole’ Wrangler and the POS is back to running like garbage again. WTH!!!! Is going on? I am thinking ECM. Either that, or some sort of short between the battery and the ECM (which would be easier to understand). It is as if the car is just STUBBORN and won’t retain anything that it has learned. As soon as the key goes off, it goes back to being a heap again.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Obviously, it is going back to the dealership that serviced it first thing tomorrow, and I am not paying another penny.

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Unread 08-28-2007, 09:58 PM   #2
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there is also another sensor called the IAC= idle air control and explain what running like garbage is????? low idle??? rough, too many to list. Not to mention the jeep is um around 13 years old its not a brand new lexus off the lot, you might have to work on her a little
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Unread 08-28-2007, 11:21 PM   #3
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Running like garbage doesn't help us out. What exaclty is it doing?

Also, I thought we told you not to take it to the dealership But, if I were you, I would taking it back also, since they didn't really fix it.

Now, if you want to take our oponion and compare it to the dealer, that is fine.
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Unread 08-28-2007, 11:26 PM   #4
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So, I got the TPS replaced the other weekend. I went to start up ye’ ole’ Wrangler and the POS is back to running like garbage again. WTH!!!! Is going on? I am thinking ECM. Either that, or some sort of short between the battery and the ECM (which would be easier to understand). It is as if the car is just STUBBORN and won’t retain anything that it has learned. As soon as the key goes off, it goes back to being a heap again.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Obviously, it is going back to the dealership that serviced it first thing tomorrow, and I am not paying another penny.
ahhh the ecm "learning" stuff argument again....

i'll stay on this one....

you do need to be a LOT more specific though, if you expect help......


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Unread 08-28-2007, 11:30 PM   #5
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ahhh the ecm "learning" stuff argument again....

i'll stay on this one....
Trust me, I'm going to go there again.
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Unread 08-28-2007, 11:57 PM   #6
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Yer only choice after last weeks miserable performance on this forum is to take it to the dealer...period...let it be their problem...you were singin' their praises then, maybe they can recalibrate the pcm again. Eh?
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Unread 08-29-2007, 01:47 AM   #7
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Unread 08-29-2007, 01:49 AM   #8
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Ok, I get it, I got it then too.

I took it to them and when I left, 99% of the engine problems were gone. Gas mileage was back, it stopped sputtering when from 1000-2000 RPMs, and it didn’t even come close to stalling when it was at idle. It has TONS of power, no weird engine noises. The reason that it went to the dealership, was because I tried stuff myself and it didn’t work and then I took it to a few other people. I UNDERSTAND where I made the mistake and the fact that I could have done it on my own. The problems, which are rather listed above, were rough idle, backfiring, hesitation between 1000 and 2000 RPMs when speeding up (or jumping), poor gas mileage, then JUMPING when shifting out of first. I took it to them, they did what they do – and when I left, I couldn’t tell the difference between that and my TJ. It handled beautifully. It sat for about 4-5 days (to top it off I broke a bone in my hand), then when I went to start it, all the problems were back again.

It is definitely going back tomorrow just because it is still supposed to be running like it was when I left, and it isn’t’. I get what everyone is saying though. All right? I can’t exactly apologize for taking it there. I was getting fed up with the Jeep in the first place. But now I know.

As for the whole “singing their praises comment”, what else could I do? I was HAPPY, sorry that is wrong. After buying this thing and dumping countless hours into it, etc……….it was finally to the point where the engine problems were completely gone for a period of time. Moreover, I did take everyone’s opinion. I didn’t pay attention to myself CALIBRATING (adjusting – whatever), like I should have done. When the individual the other day was talking about turning the TPS until it reads properly so that the engine idles normally. So far, it has a new TPS, CPS, IAC, and Knock. It just doesn’t (for lack of a better word); seem to know how to use it all. In addition, if it learns, it forgets. It ran beautifully, and now it is back to normal (normal being bad).

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Unread 08-29-2007, 08:51 AM   #9
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Sounds like someone needs to sell their Jeep and buy a Honda.
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Unread 08-29-2007, 11:16 AM   #10
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Jeeps, Jeeeepssss, as in more then one. I wonder if I can get a good deal this time of year on a truck.
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Unread 08-29-2007, 12:06 PM   #11
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Mine does the exact same thing you are talking about ... If you ever figure it out let me know!!! I have tryed everything. But I will not take it to a dealer!!!!
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Unread 08-29-2007, 12:59 PM   #12
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In addition, if it learns, it forgets.

I was almost gonna forgive you till you threw that in.
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Unread 08-29-2007, 01:13 PM   #13
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i'm not sure what i just read, though it seemed informative

*me/ hugs my carb'd & nuttered YJ

good luck with your problems though, they (needless to say) seem like a huge PITA
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Unread 08-29-2007, 01:30 PM   #14
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Jeeps, Jeeeepssss, as in more then one. I wonder if I can get a good deal this time of year on a truck.

Yea, don't expect any more advice with that atitude.
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when mine started spitting and sputtering at low RPMS, it ended up being the dist, and 1 wire was bad....
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