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01-25-2012, 04:17 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cecil, NJ
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Stock Guages with Vortec Motor
Putting a 4.8 Vortec in my 93 YJ. If I use the jeep oil pressure sender and water temp sender do I need to run them through the old jeep ecm or can I run them directly to the guages? Same question for the speedo if I use the existing speed sensor in the NP231. I'm thinking I'll have to use a dakota digital converter if I want to use the jeep tach unless someone has a better idea?? Thanks.
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01-25-2012, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Novi, MI
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No the gauges are not run through the ECM (except the Tach) on a 93 YJ.
When I put my 5.3 in....
I tapped the Oil Filter bypass cover to 1/8 NPT and installed the stock Jeep pressure sensor. The stock gauge works perfectly.
The Voltmeter works perfectly but that was easy. All it needs is a switched 12v+ source.
For the temp gauge I used an Autometer adapter and screwed the stock Jeep sensor into the 12mm plugged hole at the rear of the passenger side head.
For the Speedo the Jeep VSS in the Jeep NP231 has 3 terminals. One is ground, one is the signal to the speedo and the other is a 5 volt + source which you can get from the GM ECM. My speedo works perfectly.
For the tach a Dakota Digital adapter is supposed to work. I have not messed with this just yet so I can't say if it works.
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92 YJ, 3.5" SUA BDS Lift, 1" Body Lift
33x12.50x15 Falken Wild Peaks
5.3 Chevy/4L60E, Ford 8.8, M.O.R.E Traction Bar
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01-26-2012, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: White Rock, NM
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HI,
Why in the world are you attempting this job without having a Jeep Factory Service Manual? This makes no sense to me. Until you try to help yourself, I'm sure not going to waste time on your question.
Sparky
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01-26-2012, 12:53 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NL, Canada
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Looks like you better pick up a FSM and promptly apologize to this guy^. It sounds like he's willing to impart his wealth of knowledge onto you once you've proven you're worthy.
Ps. The FSM doesn't cover engine swaps.
What DockedWage said sounds about right. I'm not at that stage of my swap yet but I'm thinking I'll just re-wire everything directly from the sensors to the gauges so I don't have to mess around with any of the factory plugs/stamped ribbon wiring behind the gauges.
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01-26-2012, 02:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cecil, NJ
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Hey Sparky, I can't imagine why you bothered to reply since you brought nothing to the table.
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01-26-2012, 03:26 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seacoast NH
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BETTY...94 SE, Stroked 4.6, 4" lift, 1" booms rear, 1/2" booms front, 1" BL, 35 12.5 15 GY MTR's Kevlar 15 x 8.5, AA SYE w/ Woods shaft, D30 Aussie, 8.8 w/ LSD, 4.10, Smittybilt front and rear bumpers, Wildbuilt rock sliders, Cutom tire carrier w/ Jerry can, Hi-Lift, Smitybilt 8000lb winch, Ammo can consol, VHF & CB radio, Herculined, Neoprene seat covers, Hard /soft/ bikini tops.
HUMMER INTAKE. Click here.. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/h...style-1257285/
FEBRUARY 2013 YJOTM
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01-26-2012, 03:27 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Seacoast NH
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One reason I'm doing the stroker install. Mount it and go... Good luck with your swap
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BETTY...94 SE, Stroked 4.6, 4" lift, 1" booms rear, 1/2" booms front, 1" BL, 35 12.5 15 GY MTR's Kevlar 15 x 8.5, AA SYE w/ Woods shaft, D30 Aussie, 8.8 w/ LSD, 4.10, Smittybilt front and rear bumpers, Wildbuilt rock sliders, Cutom tire carrier w/ Jerry can, Hi-Lift, Smitybilt 8000lb winch, Ammo can consol, VHF & CB radio, Herculined, Neoprene seat covers, Hard /soft/ bikini tops.
HUMMER INTAKE. Click here.. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/h...style-1257285/
FEBRUARY 2013 YJOTM
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01-26-2012, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Novi, MI
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JRMBOAT,
Not sure how far along you are but here's a link to my build thread when I did the 5.3 in my 92 YJ:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...completed.html
You'll find some good stuff in there. If you need more details on a particular issue with this swap just ask. That's what forums are all about...sharing information and lessons learned.
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92 YJ, 3.5" SUA BDS Lift, 1" Body Lift
33x12.50x15 Falken Wild Peaks
5.3 Chevy/4L60E, Ford 8.8, M.O.R.E Traction Bar
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01-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: White Rock, NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrmboat
Hey Sparky, I can't imagine why you bothered to reply since you brought nothing to the table.
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HI,
Yes I did. I encouraged him to get a FSM. It will be the best investment he's ever made. None of you said that. But, it needed to be said.
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03-23-2012, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DockedWage
JRMBOAT,
Not sure how far along you are but here's a link to my build thread when I did the 5.3 in my 92 YJ:
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...completed.html
You'll find some good stuff in there. If you need more details on a particular issue with this swap just ask. That's what forums are all about...sharing information and lessons learned.
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nice writeup.
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03-23-2012, 02:22 PM
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Web Wheeler
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Falling Waters, WV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karma
HI,
Yes I did. I encouraged him to get a FSM. It will be the best investment he's ever made. None of you said that. But, it needed to be said.
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I am trying to figure out how a FSM would help in this case. I cant see where it would be very useful since it doesnt cover a vortec engine swap or any for that reason.
P.S. Not good Karma coming your way for that one.
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1995 YJ. 2 inch BDS Spring lift. 1 inch shackle lift. 33x12.5x15's. Engo 10,000 pound winch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum
I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anticanman
Big difference between a Warn winch and a worn wench. I'll take the former.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Que89YJ
Oh and the phrase high cfm doesnt do that fan justice. It could suck peanut butter through a straw!
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03-27-2012, 06:22 PM
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rum is the answer.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: One Particular Harbor/ Ocean State, RI
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in my engine swap the only thing i used from a fsm is color codes for wiring. and that was minimal.
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"id rather be on my boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with my boat on the rocks."
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95 yj 4.3 vortec csfi, 4l60e/np231cj
2013 escape titanium 4wd ecoboost
2011 F150 4x4 5.0 Coyote SVT Supercrew
2008 E450 v10 Jayco Greyhawk 28,
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03-27-2012, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Oregon Coast, Oregon
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Originally Posted by NHfireYJ
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Lot's of fun threads lately huh?
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HELP! Someone in Oregon... I NEED AN AX-15!!
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