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Unread 05-13-2006, 06:10 PM   #1
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Steering stabilizer and tie rod issues.

I was putting new shocks on and the steering stabilizer bolt busted. So I proceeded to begin to grind it off then drill it out. Well, the drilling out part isn't quite happening too well so I decided that it wasn't worth it.

So I go for a test drive around my yard (still in my cast and don't want to try driving on the streets yet) and there is a popping in my steering. I get out of the Jeep and watch the steering shaft as I turn the wheel, not that. Watch the tie rod, and the tie rod is moving causing the noise. If the explanation is not decent enough I can go make a video of it once it stops raining.

Now the question is this, is that normal? Is the steering dampener supposed to prevent the tie rod from moving that way? If so, should I just go purchase a new tie rod, without a broken bolt stuck in it. Or are the ends shot, and by putting a new tie rod, with a new steering stabilizer on, it will only mask the problem?

I have had the Jeep for 2 years, have not done any front end work, other then the new shocks I just put on. I noticed a slight kink in the steering before, but only occasionally. Hadn't had it happen since last spring. So that gives you a bit of history.

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Unread 05-13-2006, 09:49 PM   #2
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I was putting new shocks on and the steering stabilizer bolt busted. So I proceeded to begin to grind it off then drill it out. Well, the drilling out part isn't quite happening too well so I decided that it wasn't worth it.

So I go for a test drive around my yard (still in my cast and don't want to try driving on the streets yet) and there is a popping in my steering. I get out of the Jeep and watch the steering shaft as I turn the wheel, not that. Watch the tie rod, and the tie rod is moving causing the noise. If the explanation is not decent enough I can go make a video of it once it stops raining.

Now the question is this, is that normal? Is the steering dampener supposed to prevent the tie rod from moving that way? If so, should I just go purchase a new tie rod, without a broken bolt stuck in it. Or are the ends shot, and by putting a new tie rod, with a new steering stabilizer on, it will only mask the problem?

I have had the Jeep for 2 years, have not done any front end work, other then the new shocks I just put on. I noticed a slight kink in the steering before, but only occasionally. Hadn't had it happen since last spring. So that gives you a bit of history.
The tie rod is supposed to move a little bit, meaning if you grab it you might be able to twist it a little bit.

The stabilizer can mask certain steering problems. But it sounds like one or more of your tie rods are probably broken. You should check them. On one end of the tie rod it screws on and can easily be replaced. On the other end it is probably part of the tie rod, meaning you will have to replace the entire tie rod if that side is shot. That is the drag link side.

I believe in keeping the stabilizer on. But many guys on this board say they take them off with no issues. However with all of the changes we make to our Jeep (lift tires,etc.), most of us probably have a few minor issues we do not even know about. The stabilizer protects us from these minor issues.

So find a way to get the stabilizer back on, but check the tie rod ends. Also check the end on the drag link that goes to the pitman arm.
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Unread 05-14-2006, 12:22 PM   #3
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The tie rod is supposed to move a little bit, meaning if you grab it you might be able to twist it a little bit.

The stabilizer can mask certain steering problems. But it sounds like one or more of your tie rods are probably broken. You should check them. On one end of the tie rod it screws on and can easily be replaced. On the other end it is probably part of the tie rod, meaning you will have to replace the entire tie rod if that side is shot. That is the drag link side.

I believe in keeping the stabilizer on. But many guys on this board say they take them off with no issues. However with all of the changes we make to our Jeep (lift tires,etc.), most of us probably have a few minor issues we do not even know about. The stabilizer protects us from these minor issues.

So find a way to get the stabilizer back on, but check the tie rod ends. Also check the end on the drag link that goes to the pitman arm.
I have the front end up on stands right now and it turns fine. No binding, clunking or otherwise. Everything appears tight and such. So I guess I will just try and drill out the rest of that bolt, actually I am going to take it somewhere and have them do it. I already broke my drill trying.
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Unread 05-14-2006, 01:04 PM   #4
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it's not buckling because their is no force on the wheels....

set it back down and have someone watch your tie rod ends while you turn the steering wheel. they shouldn't really move at all, just pivot on their studs.
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Unread 05-14-2006, 03:18 PM   #5
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it's not buckling because their is no force on the wheels....

set it back down and have someone watch your tie rod ends while you turn the steering wheel. they shouldn't really move at all, just pivot on their studs.
Good point.


After playing with it more I have narrowed it down to the tie rod end that connects to the pitman arm. I am pretty sure that having the stabilizer on there prevented the tie rod from turning which turned the adjusting rod causing the clunk. Does this make sense? Or am I way off on my assessment?
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