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Unread 07-02-2015, 07:00 PM   #1
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I just bought a 92 wrangler, 4.0 6 cylinders. As soon as I got home and turned it off I tried to turn it back on but nothing fortunantly it was an old alarm in the engine so I dropped it off for inspection and the mechanic said all was good I just need to tighten the steering. When I google it everyone says to go under the car and adjust the gear box. I thought there was something to replace in the steering wheel its self? Not sure if that's true or not if anyone can help me out. Thanks

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Unread 07-02-2015, 07:33 PM   #2
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The steering covers a whole lot of parts. Lol, what needs tightening? Stay far away from that little screw and locknut on top of the steering box, that just sets the gear preload, tighten it and you kill the box, sooner than later. There is a left right adjuster plug, but is that what is loose or do your tie rod ends/ball joints/ bushings/ or, need attention?
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Unread 07-03-2015, 01:46 AM   #3
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Anyone correct me if i'm wrong, but from the steering wheel:
1. there is a bearing at the bottom of the steering column (where it connects to the top of steering shaft)
2. the steering shaft (which has non serviceable u-joints in it)
3. a bearing at the top of the steering box (where the lower steering shaft connects)
4. gear box- eh
5. tie rod (from pitman to top of draglink)
6 tie rod (from lower draglink to passenger tie rod)
7. Passenger side tie rod
8. tie rod adjusting sleeve
9. driver side tie rod.
10. Ball joints
11. and for good measure steering stabilizer.

My steering needed tightened up and I ended up replacing everything from #5 - 11. But my goodness the steering is tighter than any new car I've ever drove.
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Unread 07-03-2015, 08:17 AM   #4
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The steering covers a whole lot of parts. Lol, what needs tightening? Stay far away from that little screw and locknut on top of the steering box, that just sets the gear preload, tighten it and you kill the box, sooner than later. There is a left right adjuster plug, but is that what is loose or do your tie rod ends/ball joints/ bushings/ or, need attention?
If only I knew what I was talking about. The steering column itself is not loose... I think. when driving and making a turn it at first had pressure to turn, it was 'tight' and now when making a turn it could change from that tight steering to loose and the steering wheel moves pretty freely. I can feel it when going straight also but not as much since I'm not moving anything. I don't think this affects it but atm my steering wheel is not lined up straight when the tires are forward my steering wheel is turned to the right a bit.
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Unread 07-03-2015, 09:52 AM   #5
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Naturally there is a 1 inch space where the steering wheel does nothing when turning it. have you checked for play in the components (tie-rod up/down movement, Ball joint movement, and steering shaft movement?) because recently I had a similar issue and it turned out to just be original parts that were toast. Also If I read it correctly, when the track bar (a binding factor) comes loose or is taken off it will change the position of the steering wheel I believe to the right, which it did to mine. when turning in a parking lot with the steering wheel all the way over do you hear a pop of any kinda? Re-centering the steering wheel is just a matter of loosing the bolts on the drag link and turning it to straighten the wheel up.
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Unread 07-03-2015, 09:57 AM   #6
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If only I knew what I was talking about. The steering column itself is not loose... I think. when driving and making a turn it at first had pressure to turn, it was 'tight' and now when making a turn it could change from that tight steering to loose and the steering wheel moves pretty freely. I can feel it when going straight also but not as much since I'm not moving anything. I don't think this affects it but atm my steering wheel is not lined up straight when the tires are forward my steering wheel is turned to the right a bit.
The first symptom matches a seized up U-joint at the axle end behind the wheel. To check them, jack up one wheel with the steering turned to the side and hand turn the wheel. If you feel it grab, you probably have found that issue. Do each side.

The steering wheel off a bit can be the result of a lift settling in or parts not put on perfect. There is a drag link to adjust on the for from the steering box to the tie rods. This has two bolts to loosen and a sleeve that turns. This only adjust the steering wheel placement.

You had it inspected, do I wouldn't suspect really worn parts to make the wheel go off, but... It might be worth it to lay under and watch everything while someone pins the steering side to side anyway.
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