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Unread 12-22-2013, 01:56 PM   #16
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Ok so the relay clicks...I should read everything before I post. Make sure you are in neutral and on the starter relay on the pdc use a 3" piece of wire and with the trans in neutral remove the relay and jump pin 30/87 in the relay socket. The pin diagram is on the side of the relay. This is just lime turning the key. Post if it starts.
Can he use a 3.5" inch of wire ? Does it matter what color the wire is ?

"Yup grounds are good I looked at them". Do you know what to look for ? Do you know where they are located ? How many terminals and how many wires are there ?

I am betting you have no clue.

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Unread 12-22-2013, 01:59 PM   #17
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I get 12 v at the ignition switch wire on the solenoid all the time
Ok. Maybe I am confused or missing something but I think that should only be hot when ignit key switch is in the start position? Not all the time...

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Ok so the relay clicks...I should read everything before I post. Make sure you are in neutral and on the starter relay on the pdc use a 3" piece of wire and with the trans in neutral remove the relay and jump pin 30/87 in the relay socket. The pin diagram is on the side of the relay. This is just like turning the key. Post if it starts.
Ya, do this.

BTW- just noticed you are in Vermont! So there is another poor soul nearby me who's out to destroy a poor ol' YJ on our salty roads LOL
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Unread 12-22-2013, 02:02 PM   #18
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oh, and I am still putting my money on bad cable ends! I just went through this after putting a locally rebuilt starter in my '89. That salty road thing doesn't help-
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Unread 12-22-2013, 03:47 PM   #19
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I tried the jumper wire on pin 87 and 30 and nothing happened
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Unread 12-22-2013, 05:41 PM   #20
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Check power on those 2 pins.
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Unread 12-22-2013, 11:59 PM   #21
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So, tonight I replaced my terminals, cleaned my engine ground and the body ground. replaced my starter wire. Check wires for voltage had 12.5v at relay, had 12.5 volts at starter wire. Still no start. I tried bump starting it, (worked everytime) but nothing. My fuel pump is getting power, if that matters, all lights are working. Was convinced that the starter had an issue, but now not sure where else to look.
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Unread 12-23-2013, 06:40 AM   #22
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Ok the only way to have power is if the relay is engaged. I asked you to measure pin 30/87 to see if there is power. The power to start votes through those 2. Check power On the starter with the relay out.
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Unread 12-23-2013, 09:08 AM   #23
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when the key is on at pin 87/30 there is 12.5 v
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Unread 12-23-2013, 09:33 AM   #24
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Pm sent. Call me
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Unread 12-23-2013, 12:43 PM   #25
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Pull the starter/solenoid to test. It is easy two 3/8 star wrench (i think). and the two power connections, +12v battery and +12v from the ignition. Make sure you have a good battery and some jumper cables run the positive jumper to the post where the battery connection went and the negative jumper to the starter housing. Then with a screwdriver (with an insulated handle) or a piece of wire jump the ignition post to the positive post. If the starter extends and spins then the starter/solenoid are good. If it works that means you need to trouble shoot the rest. Have you tried switching relays? Like previously stated get a multimeter and check the voltages at the starter end of the connections for the battery and ignition. Also, like previously stated make sure your battery has a good charge.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 08:28 PM   #26
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The starter was bad. He replaced it and the problem is solved.
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