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Unread 10-05-2010, 07:28 PM   #1
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I have a 4.2 motor that I swapped out the pugeot trans for the AX15 I put everything back together and went to start it and the starter just free spins like it is too short now in the AX15 bellhousing to mesh with the flywheel. I have the external style clutch bellhousing in there now and the starter is the pugeot original one. Are the starters different lengths between the pugeot and the AX15 and are they different between the internal and external AX15s? Just want to make sure I order the right starter.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 08:37 PM   #2
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Sounds like your starter is not kicking out the gear, and just spinning. As far as I know the starters are the same. I used my stock one after installing the ax-15.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 09:36 PM   #3
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hmm weird I kept the stock starter on mine too...check to see if its bolted up right?
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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:50 PM   #4
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Make sure it isnt wired backwards.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 04:02 AM   #5
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Make sure it isnt wired backwards.

How do you wire a starter up backwards??? There is a hot lead from the battery and one wire to the solenoid. They only fit one way. Since OP said it spins that would tell me it wired correctly.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 07:26 AM   #6
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Is the nose of the starter too short or is the starter drive now too far away (laterally) from the flywheel to engage? Not sure with the AX-15 setup, but you may need to get the starter closer to the flywheel by "slotting" or making your bolt holes oblong.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 07:39 AM   #7
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This isin a CJ7 but I figured you guys would know better cause it is stock in yours. I kept the CJ starter solenoid on on the firewall cause it was wired up and new and then on the YJ starter a took off the main wire to the solenoid and then connected it to the one wire setup of the CJ solenoid. That might be my problem but I dont know too much about the YJ starters. Any ideas of how I can wire this up to work? Wiring diagrams would be great if you guys have any.
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Unread 10-06-2010, 08:19 AM   #8
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It's got to be the difference in the later model bell housing with the external slave. I have the AX15 but stuck with the internal slave. That early model bell housing was still attached to the trani when I got it. I am using my 87 starter and don't have a problem.

But if I don't mount it right, it won't engage properly and grind on the ring gear. I have to get the bolts right at finger tight and push it towards the engine block then tighten the bolts.

My 92 has the internal slave but has the gear reduction starter. It mounts the same way, but there may be something different i'm not aware of.

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Unread 10-18-2010, 12:08 PM   #9
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any more ideas? someone has to have had this problem before?
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Unread 10-18-2010, 12:53 PM   #10
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any more ideas? someone has to have had this problem before?
I swear there was a link about this before, the cj starters are different if I am remembering correctlly. I think it was fernando maybe who posted with this problem? Keep in mind, my memory isn't what it used to be, but I don't think if you are going from a starter/solenoid combo to split up assebly or viceversa, it won't work that way. I'll do a search and see if I can find the link...my luck it was a totally different user and problem, lol.
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Unread 10-18-2010, 01:02 PM   #11
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Try this link, there is some info that might help:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/8...blems-1001387/
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Unread 10-18-2010, 01:40 PM   #12
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there is 2 different starters. the old style large starter and the new style small starter. they are different lengths.
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Unread 10-18-2010, 01:41 PM   #13
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the old style starter motor is about 5 in. around. the new style is about 3 in. around.
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Unread 10-18-2010, 01:46 PM   #14
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the difference is that one is closer to the fly wheel than the other. i had to change mine when i changed trans.
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Unread 10-18-2010, 01:50 PM   #15
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I run an external slave ax-15 and I used the stock starter (CJ style with solenoid on firewall). No problems at all.
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