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Unread 10-30-2012, 01:05 PM   #61
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Will how did you manage to get a picture of Bill without a cigar in his hand or mouth?
When you change the plugs, if it is still missing, make sure you check out the distributer. As our discussion at Steve's place, my 93 uses a 94/95 distributer and would sometimes run fine on the 93 distributer and other times not.

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Unread 10-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #62
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3 words, gasoline and ether!!

And thanks for letting me hang out. Two sets of eyes, and two people thinking , made for a good startup.



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Unread 10-30-2012, 04:48 PM   #63
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Thanks ThomasYJ!

Tom, well I guess bill said it, he didn't want to loose what hair he had left, so he put the cigar out early on. I'll keep that in mind on the distributor. I'm thinking it was the plugs, but more run time will tell for sure. I didn't run it as long today after the plug and oil chnage but she seems to run a little rich.

Bill, any time, your help was greatly appreciated as indeed both of us going through everything using each other as a sounding board sure helped and made the non initial start less frustrating on my part. You have got to appreciate a guy who spends more time on the road than he got to spend here helping me, Bill it was greatly appreciated.

Will have more pix and info later, but man does this engine sound strong and sweet. Can't wait to get the body work done and it back on the road.

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Unread 10-30-2012, 07:30 PM   #64
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Well after yesterdays engine start and cam break-in, it was time to change the oil and install the new Spark Plugs. I elected to do the break-in with the old plugs figuring there might me some oil or other burn off that I didn't want to harm the new plugs. Not sure it was a wise idea, but I did it. As you can see in the first picture, Cylinders 3 & 4 (and partially #6) either weren't cleaned enough, or have problems and likely caused the miss the engine developed during the break-in. In the second picture you can see the cooler heat range NGK BKR6E-11 (RC9YC4) Spark plug next to one of the old Champion 4412's. (RC12LYC). While I had the plugs out I also did a room temp wet engine compression test. The results are as follows:
1 - 183 psi
2 - 182 psi
3 - 186 psi
4 - 183 psi
5 - 185 psi
6 - 183 psi
All in all only a 4 psi delta, and what I believe to be good numbers for a 9'ish Compression Ration Engine. I also checked (once I knew you could and how) checked for any Engine codes, and only found batter disconnect code which was expected. I changed the engine oil and filter and added the ZDD Plus Oil Additive. I rechecked the manifold torques, and noticed two of the exhaust pipes had a sign of what looked like oil run oil of the pipe to flange area. It's probably from the small oil leak that developed on the valve cover while running during the break-in. While the engine was running (break-in) I re-torqued the valve cover and believe I have the oil leak stopped. I also removed and extended the exhaust pipe to get the muffler to clear the skid plate, and further investigated the stock tail pipe position. I'll probably take it back, and end up having one made that fits better and is 2.5", not 2.25" in diameter. Now with the gas tank straps that arrived this afternoon, I can paint and install them and have the chassis done with the exception of drive shafts. I can't wait to get the body work done so I can see how well the engine performs. It sure sounds and runs sweet!







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Unread 10-31-2012, 07:03 AM   #65
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Any reason you chose NGK's for your plugs? I prefer them, but was told in Jeeps they like Champion/Autolite plugs? I've used NGK's in everything else I've owned, but they were Toyotas and Hondas.
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Unread 10-31-2012, 07:34 AM   #66
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Great thread, Will. Definitely watching this one for tips...you know, when I have an idea as to what I'm talking about and/or reading.
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Unread 10-31-2012, 07:51 AM   #67
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Any reason you chose NGK's for your plugs? I prefer them, but was told in Jeeps they like Champion/Autolite plugs? I've used NGK's in everything else I've owned, but they were Toyotas and Hondas.
caoboy,

I went in to O'Reilly's looking to get the Champion RC9YC4's, but they only had the NGK's in stock. One other Stroker poster on the stroker site was using them, so I figured it was a safe buy. However when I noticed the difference in tip length I was concerned, but it looks like the RC9YC4's would be the short tip as well.

Thanks 40FiveSeventy, hopefully others will learn from my mistakes.

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Unread 10-31-2012, 08:28 AM   #68
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Ahh ok. Thanks for the info.
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Unread 11-01-2012, 05:28 PM   #69
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Took advantage of probably one of the last nice days to wash off the weekends mud off the M37, and roll out the YJ to start and run the engine again. The intent was to let the engine run a good 30 minutes and see if the miss returned, and after almost 50 minutes, it did not. The engine still runs and sounds strong, but when you rev it the Air/fuel ration jumps around it it blows out some smoke. It still smells rich, but the A/F ration says different. Fluid levels are all holding steady and looking clean.



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Unread 11-01-2012, 08:04 PM   #70
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Thia is an amazing thread! You have some dedication!
Congrats on a VERY clean YJ!
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Unread 11-02-2012, 09:39 PM   #71
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Started the Body work today, and started off with the driver side floor, as it was the biggest hole in the body. I picked up a cheap patch panel and cut out the the rusted floor material and the rust at the body side as well. I've cut the patch panel down to fit and cleaned the floor. Not to start welding in the patches.




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Unread 11-03-2012, 07:02 PM   #72
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Spent some time this afternoon, cleaning out the tub, and applying some weld thru primer to the drivers floor. Next I started pulling off the tub interior items, rails, seat mounts, wiring, heating system, etc... As you can also see I have it on a set of wheels for easy movement and better side access.




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Unread 11-04-2012, 05:03 PM   #73
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Welded in the floor and door support patches. Now to patch the outer body panel, and then move to the rear of the tub for those patches.




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Unread 11-06-2012, 01:53 PM   #74
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Just a little work. I fabricated and welded in the outer panel patch for the drivers side door support area. Welding on this thin sheet metal just isn't my thing. I also removed the cracked/broken and cleaned up the cowl areas.




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Unread 11-07-2012, 12:04 PM   #75
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looking good, and I still think that looks less painful the the tranny we did in my exploder.
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