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Unread 10-19-2013, 10:49 AM   #16
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What shims?

Removing the carrier doesn't involve anything but removing the two bolts that go to each bearing cap, and then the bearing caps themselves.

The shims go between the bearing and the carrier... You remove your bearings when pulling the Carrier?
The shims that go between thr bearing races and housing.

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Unread 10-19-2013, 11:02 AM   #17
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The shims that go between thr bearing races and housing.
Those shims are between the pressed on bearing and the carrier... Not between the races and the housing. Meaning, one would have to pry off the entire bearing in order to remove the shims. Carrier removal does not = bearing removal from carrier, just the races, which are easily stored next to their bearing cap/bolts.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/da...stions-992061/

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-...placement.html

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...-bearing-shims

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Do not try to put the shims on the outside of the bearings on the Dana 30. You probably noticed the thickness and beefiness of the D35 Shims, but the D30 shims are far too fragile to be placed between the bearings and the housing. This would most likely cause inaccurate carrier preload as well as a host of other problems, if you are even able to get the carrier in the housing without destroying them. As well the D30 shims are designed to be stacked as the D35 shims are not.
The above reason is why when performing a regar or installing a full carrier locker on the D30, people often buy an extra set of bearings to use as "setup bearings"... They grind down the inside of the bearings so that they come off by hand when installing/removing shims during setup. Once the correct shims are achieved, the perminant bearings are pressed onto the carrier.
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Unread 10-19-2013, 11:16 AM   #18
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Those shims are between the pressed on bearing and the carrier... Not between the races and the housing. Meaning, one would have to pry off the entire bearing in order to remove the shims. Carrier removal does not = bearing removal from carrier, just the races, which are easily stored next to their bearing cap/bolts.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/da...stions-992061/

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-...placement.html

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...-bearing-shims



The above reason is why when performing a regar or installing a full carrier locker on the D30, people often buy an extra set of bearings to use as "setup bearings"... They grind down the inside of the bearings so that they come off by hand when installing/removing shims during setup. Once the correct shims are achieved, the perminant bearings are pressed onto the carrier.
Well, that's just from my experience from my stock Dana 30. When I pulled out the carrier the shims were between the races and the housing.
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Unread 10-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #19
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Well, that's just from my experience from my stock Dana 30. When I pulled out the carrier the shims were between the races and the housing.
The carrier shims on a d30 go between the bearing and carrier from the factory. You bought your jeep off the show room floor back in 1991? No other owners? I don't know what to tell you... Who ever setup the axle was lazy or didn't know what they were doing.

Notice where the shims are located in this diagram? PART 3 >>SOURCE<<


We don't want people who are interested in a 1 piece swap to read this thread thinking that carrier shims are an issue. I understand you wanted to provide an alternate option to the seal at the differential, which is all well and good. But personal experience or not, we want to allow people to make an educated decision
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Unread 11-11-2013, 05:51 AM   #20
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Thane you to everybody on this post. I am attempting to start my solid shaft swap tonight. All info on here was very useful. Even the shim confusion was a funny read
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Unread 11-11-2013, 07:03 AM   #21
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Thane you to everybody on this post. I am attempting to start my solid shaft swap tonight. All info on here was very useful. Even the shim confusion was a funny read
Are you not intertained!!??

haha all levity aside, good luck with the swap, let us know if you have any questions/run into any issues.
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Unread 11-12-2013, 09:48 AM   #22
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All went well so far I got the shafts out and found the actual problem once I pulled it all apart. The fork on the cad system broke so that's why it would work but make a loud bang whenever I let out the clutch. Now that I have it all apart tonight I will get the new seals in and button it up and hopefully go to rausch this weekend.
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