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Unread 02-12-2014, 11:25 PM   #1
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SOA YJ With Ladder Bar

While building my SOA kit I decided to keep my rear traction bar in order to help with spring wrap. Unfortunately the other day the bracket that I had built in order to lengthen the traction bar snapped in two from how much my axle was wrapping. After a little bit of research I bought a ladder bar from MORE which is said to be built specifically for SOA jeeps to help reduce axle wrap. My concern is where exactly to weld the front bracket on the ladder bar to my skid plate. I have seen where they build a crossmember in oder to mount the bracket but I have also seen it where they weld it on to the stock skid plate. How exactly would you beef up the skid plate in order to handle this much pressure without cracking or bending the skid? I would like to be able to do this without having to build a crossmember. I have a 1" T case drop that I fabbed up in order to help with driveline angle so my skid is sitting a little lower than stock. Any advice on how to beef up my skid plate to handle that amount of torque would be greatly appreciated!

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Unread 02-12-2014, 11:26 PM   #2
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I wouldn't use a factory skid. But that's just me. I've seen it done before however.
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Unread 02-13-2014, 12:27 AM   #3
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I "boxed" the rear area of the skid & mounted the MORE TB to it.

After ~9 years & numerous Johnson Valley/Hammers trails runs plus countless other trail runs, it never gave me an issue. If done by a piss poor installer, it'll have issues no matter how its done.
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Unread 02-13-2014, 10:00 AM   #4
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I "boxed" the rear area of the skid & mounted the MORE TB to it. After ~9 years & numerous Johnson Valley/Hammers trails runs plus countless other trail runs, it never gave me an issue. If done by a piss poor installer, it'll have issues no matter how its done.
By "boxing" the rear of the skid did you just use square tubing along the skid?
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Unread 02-13-2014, 10:33 PM   #5
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Thinking about welding a 5/8 plate underneath my skid to beef it up a bit to mount the ladder bar, any thoughts?
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Unread 02-13-2014, 11:43 PM   #6
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I didn't use square tubing. We used some 2x1/4" steel plate & contoured it to the natural shape of the skid. 1 piece contoured the bottom, while another piece was used vertically to create a boxed shape.
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Unread 02-13-2014, 11:49 PM   #7
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BTW: After I installed the MORE TB, the folks at MORE liked my install enough that they used my pics for their instructions.
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Unread 02-14-2014, 12:45 PM   #8
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BTW: After I installed the MORE TB, the folks at MORE liked my install enough that they used my pics for their instructions.
Do you have any pics of the mount you built?
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Unread 02-23-2014, 01:13 AM   #9
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after i snapped my ladder bar on first run 12 inch SOA 35" detriots and 4.88 i installed "military wrap springs" dont need ladder any more rides a bit stiff but not bad
i have remote res bilistien shocks helps alot.
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Unread 02-23-2014, 01:47 AM   #10
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after i snapped my ladder bar on first run 12 inch SOA 35" detriots and 4.88 i installed "military wrap springs" dont need ladder any more rides a bit stiff but not bad
i have remote res bilistien shocks helps alot.
How'd you snap it? Too much travel? Ive got fox shox so it helps with the ride quality I just don't want to have to sacrifice the factory leafs softness and ability to articulate. I feel that military wrap springs wouldn't allow as much travel considering there stiffer?
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after i snapped my ladder bar on first run 12 inch SOA 35" detriots and 4.88 i installed "military wrap springs" dont need ladder any more rides a bit stiff but not bad
i have remote res bilistien shocks helps alot.
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Unread 02-23-2014, 02:46 PM   #12
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it cracked weld at pumpkin hard to weld cast, to be honest i didnt leave enough play to allow axle to wrap a bit. so it stressed the weld. my springs limit flew less then ladder bar i had soft spring before and the flex difference is minor.
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Unread 02-28-2014, 12:28 AM   #13
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Well I finished mounting my MORE ladder bar. I used a 3/8" 14x10 piece of AR plate and welded it directly onto the skid. Then drilled two holes to mount the ladder bar onto it using some grade 8 1/2" bolts so that I can still drop the skid if needed for maintenance. I also notched a piece out of the bracket that welds onto the axle housing so that I could keep my break lines in the original place.
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