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Unread 03-22-2012, 10:05 AM   #16
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so good news. placed a 9' in the rear with 4.88 and dana 4, 4.88 for the front. got new springs as well, disk breaks all the way around( got a new propportioning vaulve) got the back axle up and on with no problems and doing the front today and tomorrow. Have got a ptiman arm and track bar well made one at the machine shop, will have pictures up by sat if work does not take me away. so far this isnt as bad as every one has made it out to be.

Im going to rephrase what i said with the orginal post im not going to just go get one i realize that its not somthing you just buy off a shelf, so im going to fab one this week
nuff said right there


PITMAN ARM LOLZ

trac bar even more LOLZ

save the pics I already know what it will look like and be almost undrivable

its not bad cause your only doing half the job and barely taht

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Unread 03-22-2012, 10:38 AM   #17
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I cant understand why people come to this forum and post wild ideas without learning the facts first.
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Please do some research

http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/soa-gone-bad-983935/

32 bucks? LOLZ
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ad.php?t=46236
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SOA is completely out of you're league at this point.
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Unread 03-22-2012, 11:45 AM   #18
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I cant wait to see the Tcase drop.......

really tho.... your spending all that time and money doing ford 9" and dana 44 etc...... and cheap out on the mot critical part....


STEERING
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family roll bar swap/upgrade..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...grade-1054753/

1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Unread 03-22-2012, 12:12 PM   #19
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If you want a 44 front, get a 78-79 F250. It is a bolt on SOA for a YJ.
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Unread 03-23-2012, 11:33 PM   #20
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Im dieing to know how this ended???
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Started with some rust repairs ended in a SOA...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/h...-jeep-1050879/

family roll bar swap/upgrade..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...grade-1054753/

1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Unread 03-24-2012, 12:13 AM   #21
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nuff said right there


PITMAN ARM LOLZ

trac bar even more LOLZ

save the pics I already know what it will look like and be almost undrivable

its not bad cause your only doing half the job and barely taht
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Not calling you out specifically giggity, but why are all you guys so unhelpful when people ask a question about SOA?

And what is 'doing half the job'? - I'm not vouching for the OP here.. but you have no idea what his mechanical skill level is, or what his working knowledge is of leaf sprung vehicles.

SOA isn't difficult.. it's expensive, sure, but thats relative with any suspension modification.. and it's time consuming - But it is far from difficult.

You move the axel from one side to another, figure out pinion/caster angles, shock mounts, drive shaft, brake lines.. really pretty basic stuff. - I can see how it wouldn't be so easy for someone with zero mechanical experience. - but there are too many threads where people get talked down at just for asking a question.. like "how do you like your SOA setup? because I'm thinking about doing one"

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Unread 03-24-2012, 06:47 AM   #22
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Connect the 2 icons "by placing the jeep above the axle icon and the soa opens in a separate window." then you can access the spring over bible which has been protected by soa ninjas for along time.Its all a big secret.like area 51.Got to go I've said to much ,i think i heard something ,hope its not the ninjas. They beat you up about soa because they are trying to save a life i guess.
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Unread 03-24-2012, 10:04 AM   #23
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Not calling you out specifically giggity, but why are all you guys so unhelpful when people ask a question about SOA?
I actually think most guys get tons of helpful info initially. I think the frustration comes because in under less than a second on Google you can over a hundred thousand results and guys still come here as though there's nothing involved but bolting an axle to the bottom of a set of springs.

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Connect the 2 icons "by placing the jeep above the axle icon and the soa opens in a separate window." then you can access the spring over bible which has been protected by soa ninjas for along time.Its all a big secret.like area 51.Got to go I've said to much ,i think i heard something ,hope its not the ninjas. They beat you up about soa because they are trying to save a life i guess.
You are hearby banned from the SOA bible.

First rule of the SOA bible: You do not talk about the SOA bible.

Now, I'm probably going to get banned from the SOA bible for quoting you talking about the SOA bible.
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Unread 03-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #24
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I actually think most guys get tons of helpful info initially. I think the frustration comes because in under less than a second on Google you can over a hundred thousand results and guys still come here as though there's nothing involved but bolting an axle to the bottom of a set of springs.



You are hearby banned from the SOA bible.

First rule of the SOA bible: You do not talk about the SOA bible.

Now, I'm probably going to get banned from the SOA bible for quoting you talking about the SOA bible.
this... Lots of ppl ask, not many listen.... they half *** the job and come back in 2 weeks asking why their steering is ****, and their jeep wont stay on the road.... or they have 7 steering stabilizers on to help....

its not hard, your right, but there is ALOT more involved then what most ppl think
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Started with some rust repairs ended in a SOA...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/h...-jeep-1050879/

family roll bar swap/upgrade..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...grade-1054753/

1990 YJ. SOA, OME 36R 3.5" lift springs, OME 5/8 greasable shackles, OTT high steer, Custom cage, team Rush, Posi, 33 TSL swampers
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Unread 03-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #25
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Okay guys.....I did some creative editing.

Carry-on.
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Unread 03-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #26
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I had to mention the soa bible!
dam! back to square one .
Well since im at the bottom again i have to ask "do you want fries with that"??
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Unread 03-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #27
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for the ones who just gave me crap... dont wry i got a complete high steel kit so as far as undrievable it most def is and for the ones who argued for me thank you very much i agree with what you are saying about helping people with questions.." its just a question big deal" now back to business I have used hyme joints in the past and have seen them done on other tj's with a 4- link set up.have any of you seen or used them on a yj wihtout a long arm set up?
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Hyme joints for steering..? They're not street legal IIRC, if that's what your considering.
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Unread 03-25-2012, 10:59 PM   #29
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for the ones who just gave me crap... dont wry i got a complete high steel kit so as far as undrievable it most def is and for the ones who argued for me thank you very much i agree with what you are saying about helping people with questions.." its just a question big deal" now back to business I have used hyme joints in the past and have seen them done on other tj's with a 4- link set up.have any of you seen or used them on a yj wihtout a long arm set up?
This is why people are giving you a hard time.

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Hyme joints for steering..? They're not street legal IIRC, if that's what your considering.
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Unread 03-26-2012, 05:57 AM   #30
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for the ones who just gave me crap... dont wry i got a complete high steel kit so as far as undrievable it most def is and for the ones who argued for me thank you very much i agree with what you are saying about helping people with questions.." its just a question big deal" now back to business I have used hyme joints in the past and have seen them done on other tj's with a 4- link set up.have any of you seen or used them on a yj wihtout a long arm set up?
YJ's are leaf sprung. They will never have a long arm set up unless you completely change the suspension over to coils. Yes it has been done but coils are not normally associated with coils. YOu ask about spring over and then talk about YJ's like they are coil sprung in the same post. That really makes you sound like you have no idea what you have and what your doing. Spring over can be very very dangerous if not done right. Plenty of people on here will help you. But they will only do that if they feel you are going to do it right. I know I would not help someone do something if I thought they were going to half *** it and end up killing thierselves or worse someone else. Show everyone you know what your talking about and doing and maybe thier attitudes would change.
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