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Unread 11-05-2011, 06:04 AM   #16
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Yes Harley, 35s, no body lift, factory fender flares. I still don't have the pinion angle set, so I haven't driven it much. I have no idea how flexible these springs are or at what point the tires might rub. But for the kid to drive to school and back it should be fine until I get stock replacement springs and go soa. Hoping to set pinion angle today.

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Unread 11-05-2011, 09:15 AM   #17
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So you are running 35 inch tires SUA with a 4 inch spring and no body lift or cut fenders?
Did you not see he got pro-comp springs? They won't move enough to hit or rub! But he may be in trouble later when they sag!






























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Unread 11-05-2011, 02:02 PM   #18
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Well I couldnt stand the way my 4 inch pro comp springs rode but sag is one thing they never did. I couldnt fit a 35 though I dont think.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 05:56 AM   #19
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Okay, movin' on from the 4"/35s...I never really got an answer on my original question. Remember, I'm a newb and I'm learning as I go. Sometime before the end of the month I will install new stock replacement springs and a 9" rear with 4:56 gears f&r. By Spring a new 44 in front, I hope.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 08:16 AM   #20
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And this is supposed to be your kids first vehicle? I'd consider just getting him a stock Jeep, and make him work for it. Keep this one and make it yours so he can be jealous of what his dad has and work even harder to get it

He's a kid too, he's going to drive it like a racecar at first, so you need as safe of a vehicle as you can get. I know this because I was in those shoes not too long ago.
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Unread 11-06-2011, 09:06 AM   #21
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Okay, movin' on from the 4"/35s...I never really got an answer on my original question. Remember, I'm a newb and I'm learning as I go. Sometime before the end of the month I will install new stock replacement springs and a 9" rear with 4:56 gears f&r. By Spring a new 44 in front, I hope.
OK, what was the original question? Axles not centered? B/c in a later post you made it sound like you had already got the axles mounted under the Jeep to know the 35s would work. So help us out here. Are these the stock 30/35 combo? Were the old sua perchs removed? Is it still off center?
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Unread 11-06-2011, 11:09 AM   #22
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How about a pic? When you say centered tell us what you mean. Side to side? Or front to back in the center of the wheel well? I have seen alot of SUA jeeps with 4 inch springs and it looks like the rear tires sit to far forward in the wheelwell. Really bad looking with extended shackles also.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 02:58 AM   #23
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My bad...the rear axle appeared to be forward almost two inches from center. I don't know if the shackles are stock length or not and the stock sua perches remain in place on the front and rear (30/35). I just drilled out the perches and plates on the rear axle to offset the difference, it's really close to center now. Front remains set back almost an inch and will remain that way until I get new springs and gears, and...

it's never going to end, is it?
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Unread 11-09-2011, 06:17 AM   #24
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As far as 9" big or small bearing, 31-28, doesn't matter, still better than a stock Dana.
Its easy enough to upgrade that 9" to 31 spline. A 31 spline carrier can be had for change most places or you can pick up a used round track Detroit take off for a couple hundred bucks off ebay. As for shafts just get you a set of moser or superior chromos and be done with it. The small bearings wont be a big deal with 35s. Do consider putting a truss on it. As for the 3.00 gears, I think you will be alright there.

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it's never going to end, is it?
Negative, they are a disease.
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Unread 01-02-2012, 07:55 AM   #25
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I finally got it all worked out, I think. After purchasing so many different springs not getting the results I was hoping for, I made my own leaf set. Im sure this is going to create some talk, and I always want your advice, even if I disagree in the end, and that's why Im posting. You guys may tell me something i didnt consider, even tho it's done and works fine. Oh boy, here goes...I removed the 4" springs and sold them. I took two leafs from an old 6" set (too high) and three from the new stock replacement set (too soft) and married the set according to length. Resulting in a five leaf pack in the front and i have a three leaf pack in the rear. This is a soa mount with an additional 2-3 inches of lift from the springs. The shakles (too long) are aftermarket and came with the Jeep, they may even be custom made, either way they are the next to go. Pinion angle is good, axles are centered in the wheel wells, spring rate is really good, not too soft, not too hard. Rides pretty good considering it's so high and on 35's. The 9 inch rear axle is underway and Im just wating on a gear set, which is on hold until I choose a locker. I just purchased another 9/44rs axle set Saturday. The 44rs is going to sit a while until the rear is done and I win the Lotto. My main concern would be the spring packs. How long will they last? How stupid was that? So many options on trac-bars, which is best for my situation?
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Unread 01-02-2012, 08:04 AM   #26
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No way of telling how long they will or wont last without knowing the details of the springs. If they can hold up to the weight of the rig, are not Pro Crap or Rough Country, they may last forever
Time will tell, but you went ahead and made your own, so that rarely works perfectly the first time does it? If they sag, add another leaf or remove a leaf and add a heavier one.
Trac bars are just not needed on a Leaf sprung rig as a rule. You can of course add a front one to help in the front axle trying to move when you turn. Just make it easy to remove when not needed though (for off roading etc).
I just run a sway bar on my rigs, and they handle just fine, but I don't know the type of springs you have, so not a direct comparison.

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Unread 01-02-2012, 08:18 AM   #27
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alot of people build there own springs packs... they should last just as long as the packs you took them out of.
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Unread 01-02-2012, 08:21 AM   #28
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Thanks. The 6" are Skyjacker and the stock replacement are standard Crown replacements, not the HD version. I run the sway bar, but would like a trac bar up front for on road use. That high on 35s @ 70-75mph on the interstate, stuff tends to flex a lil....Another question would be the steering box (ie; flex, strain, etc.) and the best solution to correct this. From now on, Im asking questions first, wrenching second. Thanks again.
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Unread 01-02-2012, 08:28 AM   #29
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Here are a couple of steering setups I did.
First on our XJ, second on a YJ I just built for a guy.
Our XJ:
trac-bar-n-ram.jpg
ram1.jpg

Dave's YJ:
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Both setups are using .250 wall seamless tubing for the tie rod and drag link. Our XJ has a brace from the trac bar bracket to the opposite "frame" rail for support. It has hydro assist, so not a lot of stress on the steering box itself.
The YJ may well be going hydro assist too, so no brace made for that one yet.
Mountain Offroad make a nice one you can look at, then base your design off that if you wanted to. A steering box brace is a good thing though, especially on a YJ.

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Unread 01-02-2012, 08:32 AM   #30
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i know the jb cross over steering kit is really popular and ive heard good things but when i get around to doing my steering im going to go with this

http://www.rocky-road.com/yjott.html
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