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Unread 01-08-2006, 05:48 PM   #1
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SOA Conversion for $75

Anyone heard of this? This guy says he has converted two YJ's to SOA by using mostly stock parts and just relocating them. I was wondering what everyone else thought about this?

http://www.4x4grace.com/tech/soa.html

Any suggestions/warnings?

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Unread 01-08-2006, 05:53 PM   #2
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Id get new spring perches and shock mounts. go ahead and get new shocks too, you'll want them. Also. while you are under there you might as well get rid of the Dana 35 and grab an 8.8. Thats my advice for ya man! total price would be about $200-$250
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Unread 01-08-2006, 05:56 PM   #3
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Id get new spring perches and shock mounts. go ahead and get new shocks too, you'll want them. Also. while you are under there you might as well get rid of the Dana 35 and grab an 8.8. Thats my advice for ya man! total price would be about $200-$250
Well for now I was going to get new perches, keep the shock mounts, if my buddy can cut them clean enough, realign them to fit my current shocks and just extend my bumpstops for now. As for the Axle upgrade, I already have a d44 Fr and a 9" Rr, thanks for the input though!
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Unread 01-08-2006, 06:02 PM   #4
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Ok good. jsut as long as the 35 gets trashed..lol
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Unread 01-08-2006, 06:21 PM   #5
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You should really get springs made for SOA, also longer brakelines, shocks, some anti-wrap device(ladder bar), steering might come into question somewhere along the line, and assuming he put an SYE in there somewhere. In the end, it'll be more than $75
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Unread 01-08-2006, 11:20 PM   #6
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like most ppl say u get what u pay for. if i was u id go for the R.E SOA kit only 300$ and it comes with basically everything u need and its done right. i plan on doing an SOA on my jeep hopefully the end of february. im using the R.E soa kit with there 1.5" lift springs, new shocks, sye and cv style drive shaft. im looking at about 1700$ but i am doing a bigger lift than a normal soa.
but i still recommend just spending the 300$ on the r.e kit.
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Unread 01-09-2006, 02:32 AM   #7
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OFF TOPIC - Sort of...

I work for a truck shop, and i was trying to get a key for a tonneau cover from one of our competitors, i happened to park in front of the window and he kept saying how much he liked my jeep, etc...

anyway... I'd mentioned someday I wanted to do SOA and full size running gear...
He suggested i ditch that plan and get a 3" BL and 3" wheel spacers.
I couldnt decide whether i wanted to vomit, laugh hysterically or cry hoping theyd never convinced anyone to do this setup...
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Unread 01-09-2006, 12:45 PM   #8
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Anyone heard of this? This guy says he has converted two YJ's to SOA by using mostly stock parts and just relocating them. I was wondering what everyone else thought about this?

http://www.4x4grace.com/tech/soa.html

After reading this article, I'm convinced to go SOA when I get the money for new parts. Any suggestions/warnings?
It seems like we have this topic once a week. Sure anyone can do any SOA for cheap, but from trail experience: cheap breaks. So you have to ask yourself: cheap or reliable?

First: Why SOA? You do SOA for two reasons: flatter and flexy springs and extra lift to stuff big tires. SOA require custom metal fab and require knowledge of suspensions, drivelines, steering, and brakes. The flexy springs allow a lot more travel, which in turn allow a lot more stress to be applied to all components. Your U-bolts, spring plates, shackles, spring perches, and springs see a lot more twisting and bending. All of these things need extra beef. I refuse to put in U-bolts that are smaller than 5/8” and spring plates that are thinner than 3/8”.

Your driveshafts, shocks, brake lines, and steering have extra travel. So sometime you need aftermarket products to accommodate this. The author didn’t mention anything about a SYE or new driveshafts. The author also didn’t talk about axle wrap, which is common problem.

Next, I will never do a SOA with the stock rear axle. There is too much work evolved for someone to go out and grenade there D35 and then require more work to put in a better rear end.

I call BS.

Why did I spend 4.5 grand on a F/R D44 axle swap (all new bearings and seals), with front and rear ARBs, 4.88 spicers gears, custom high steer (by me), rear disk brakes, new 2” Alcan springs, new perches, new 5/8” u-bolts, new 3/8” spring plates, new M.O.R.E. extended shock towers, custom shock cross member (by me), J.B. super shorty SYE, custom front and rear driveshafts, new shocks, M.O.R.E traction bar with custom cross member (cross member by me)?

I like to do stuff right the first time.
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Unread 01-09-2006, 12:51 PM   #9
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These threads always strike me a little odd as well. No matter how cheap you lift it, you're still gonna be in $600-700 for decent tires and a set of steelies... double that if you want the latest treads and aluminum rims.

In light of all the other stuff to lift it right, the actual springs (or SOA conversion parts) are pretty cheap. Trouble is, there's no way to really get around the other stuff if you want to DD it and maybe go on a date once in awhile.
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Unread 01-09-2006, 04:12 PM   #10
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like most ppl say u get what u pay for. if i was u id go for the R.E SOA kit only 300$ and it comes with basically everything u need and its done right. i plan on doing an SOA on my jeep hopefully the end of february. im using the R.E soa kit with there 1.5" lift springs, new shocks, sye and cv style drive shaft. im looking at about 1700$ but i am doing a bigger lift than a normal soa.
but i still recommend just spending the 300$ on the r.e kit.

Well since he already has a 4" lift and just wants to go SOA with stock springs (or something lcose to stock) He probably doesnt need most of the stuff in the RE kit. I would imagine there isnt too much he would have left to do other than perches but without seeing the jeep first hand i can say for sure.
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Unread 01-09-2006, 07:43 PM   #11
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Well since he already has a 4" lift and just wants to go SOA with stock springs (or something lcose to stock) He probably doesnt need most of the stuff in the RE kit. I would imagine there isnt too much he would have left to do other than perches but without seeing the jeep first hand i can say for sure.
Yeah, sorry about that. I forgot to mention that I already have all of my gear for the SOA conversion. That link wasn't for me, just wondering if it would be a problem for others to try.. I just posted it for others to check out, and broaden their ideas for SOA.
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