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post #1 of 7 Old 03-03-2013, 03:43 PM Thread Starter
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Shock Help?

So my father and I had a bit of a discussion about this the other night and I thought I'd let the bright minds of the jeep forum settle who's right, or maybe if we both are.
Ok so my 93 Wrangler has a 4in Rough Country Lift. Not I'm aware of the negativity towards the brand, however I personally am very happy with it. Ive had it for three years now with no sag, and good performance. However it does ride like a pioneer's wagon, and I know it's the nature of the beast considering it's leafs all around but I felt that if i replace the lift kit shocks with a better set (ex. Bilsteins, Fox, ext.) that it would improve the ride quality. Now my father thinks that it really wouldn't do anything and its mainly all about the springs. So my question is would shocks help the ride, do a little, or nothing at at?

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post #2 of 7 Old 03-03-2013, 04:16 PM
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Not enough to worry about. One of the things people complain about the RC springs is they are very rough riding (as are my Cepek springs). Shocks will help on rebound and compression of the springs if they are compressing. The problem you're experiencing is the springs are so tight you are jarred with every bump, there is no up and down flexing to control, there is no flexing.

BTW my springs have not lost any stiffness over 10+ years, I'm switching them out soon to a more flexing spring, then good shocks will help.
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post #3 of 7 Old 03-03-2013, 04:27 PM
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riding rough is not inherent with a jeep, only a jeep porely built. everything affects everything. anyone who points to one certain thing would be wrong. bolts, bushings, springs, shocks, wheelbase, etc etc. before spending money take the shocks off and see what it rides like. most all lift kit shocks suck. if it still rides rough then its time to work with bushings and springs. i disagree with most. i can get an awful spring to ride smooth even a rough country. anyone who takes a springpack out of the box and slaps it on as is, is selling himself short. ive got a set of BDS springs that are the worst by a far margin ive ever seen. i have a jeep on procomps and you can push down on the front bumper and it will sink several inches. it rides very smooth. the BDS equipped jeep i can jump up and down all day on the front and it wont budge. make sure your bushing system is designed not to bind and moves freely by hand even when torqued to factory specs. most if not all will nat be able to do this without some work. make sure you have the proper lube in them. some will cause premature hardeing and binding of the polyurethane. make sure the clamps on the leaves are not bend down tight from the factory. lubricate between the leaves. i use full length teflon liners.

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"It's a Jeep, not a Cadillac right?"

It is a Jeep, but that's no excuse for a poor ride. You like the Rough Country springs, but don't like the ride. The springs ARE the ride. Shocks will probably not overcome poor metallurgy. It only takes the right set of springs and shocks.

What happens in my Jeep, stays in my Jeep
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the springs are not the ride. again everything affects the ride quality. if you have crappy seats this can also play into it. if your springs and bushings are working well and you put on crappy lift kit shocks you will feel it. this is 90% of why people think jeeps ride rough. lift companies incorporate one-size-fits-all valving for every lift that manufacturer makes. if you ask them they wont even be able to give you valving specifics. you will be getting a shock designed to work with a full sized truck. years ago i tore a front shock off and was surprised how it felt smoother. i took all the shocks off and it was a great ride outside of the lack of dampening. use a high end unit and you will feel a difference.

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post #6 of 7 Old 03-03-2013, 05:52 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info guys, now for the longest time i was thinking about putting in revolver shackles. but after recent thought and the fact i never wheel my jeep hard enough to put that 500 dollars to good work, i was just thinking about getting a new set of greasable shackles and greasable bushings, with some new Bilstein shocks down the road. What do ya think?
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post #7 of 7 Old 03-03-2013, 06:43 PM
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If you want to keep the springs I would do as fratis says and take the spring paks apart, get the teflon strips in between each leaf, maybe bend the tips of the clamps up and run a bolt through the top to free them up, make sure all your bushings are good and greasable, make sure your shackles aren't binding things up. If your leafs are rusted in between wire brush them clean of all rust and refinsh them before you put your teflon strips down. Lots of work but will save you money and may help a lot.
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