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Unread 10-16-2002, 04:17 PM   #1
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Shackles or Body Lift

I know that running extended shackles decrease handling abilities but I have also heard much disgust for body lifts.

I was just wondering which you guys thought would be a better way to go when trying to run 31's with no rubbing on articulation.

Oh Yeah, this will be going on a Daily driven '90 YJ.

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Unread 10-16-2002, 04:22 PM   #2
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Neither ...

I prefer (after all my mods) the SNIP .. Bushwacker flares. About the same general price as either the shackles or body-lift .. without any of those negative effects given by either body-lift or shackle lift.
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Unread 10-16-2002, 04:24 PM   #3
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How much did youpary for your flares?

I thought i saw the price on those at like $300 bucks.
That is a quite a bit more that $90-100 for shackles or a body lift.

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Unread 10-16-2002, 04:36 PM   #4
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Up here in Canada, the prices are a little closer in price than that .. a cheap suspension lift is $1000 .. a cheap bodylift is $400 .. shackles I haven't priced out .. and my flares ... when everything was all said and done was about $600 .. but to me, that $600 was very well spent.
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Unread 10-16-2002, 05:33 PM   #5
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Naekid , i realize u know alot, ive read enough around here to find that out, but where do you find 400 dollar BL's, Ive found them for under 100.
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Unread 10-17-2002, 01:14 AM   #6
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i wouln't do either, save up fore spring lift...... i have a 2.5 lift from trailmaster, and i run 31"s. only minor rubbing on flares when sway is disconnected
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Unread 10-17-2002, 07:16 AM   #7
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Naekid , i realize u know alot, ive read enough around here to find that out, but where do you find 400 dollar BL's, Ive found them for under 100.
The Can. dollar doesn't go as for as our U.Ss, but still, $400 sounds a bit much. I would think it's somewhere in the $160 or so Can. But I don't live in Canada, so I could be way off.
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Unread 10-17-2002, 07:46 AM   #8
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I'm running both lifts w/ 32's. Love it!
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Unread 10-17-2002, 10:31 AM   #9
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I'm running both lifts w/ 32's. Love it!
Now that's the information I wanted to hear.

What size are your shackles and BL?

Also, what brand?

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Unread 10-17-2002, 02:48 PM   #10
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I'm not sure on what kind've shackle lift I have but the shackles area around 8" long, not sure but I can check if you want. My body lift is a 2" Performance Accessories. It went on very easy. I bought my body lift from JC Whitney I believe it is the cheapest there. If you are not doing serious rock crawl'n you'll be ok. I'm not a rock crawler but I do like to go wheel'n/mud'n every now and then and I haven't had any problems. For the money I would do it again. I bet I could run 33's with no problems. Here is a pic

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Unread 10-17-2002, 06:22 PM   #11
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Naekid , i realize u know alot, ive read enough around here to find that out, but where do you find 400 dollar BL's, Ive found them for under 100.
If you check my previous post, to this one, you will notice that the flares were about $600, and you stated that the prices in the states was about $300 .. well, the math normally works out that we pay just just over twice as much for the same product.

We have border fees and taxes, shipping fees and taxes, taxes on both of those (GST), duty, more taxes, .. and then exchange. It really hits our pocket-books!

As far as the price of the body lifts, a quick call to our local 4x4 shop gives the explanation for the high price ..

A. The pucks
B. The bushings
C. The Grade 8 nuts and bolts
D. The alignment kits (radiator, t-case, shifter)
E. Shipping, handling, gratuity, duty, exchange and taxes on everything else.

Kinda sad, eh?
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Unread 10-18-2002, 10:27 AM   #12
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I hear ya Naekid....
I try to find as many places around Canada as I can for parts...
Prices are easier to figure out, and the taxes you pay aren't as bad

Do you know any good Canadian sites??
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Unread 10-18-2002, 12:45 PM   #13
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Both!

Do both if you’re just doing mild wheeling. I got 1.5" home made lift shackles (3" longer then stock) and a 2" body lift from Energy Suspensions. I get a little rub at the back with 33" tires. But I've also bent the front springs cause of the decreased approach angle. That is the only draw back that I've found.
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Unread 10-18-2002, 02:50 PM   #14
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So you guys are still pretty happy with 1 1/2" shackle lifts.
How is the road handling, i have heard saome bad things about jeeps with to long of shackles.

That really bites that it costs that much for the parts in Canada. I didn't realize how much shipping across the border cost.
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Unread 10-18-2002, 03:01 PM   #15
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My dad has a stock 87YJ and the only difference that I can tell is that the suspension is a little stiffer on mine due to the shackles. Just go and get some shackles and do a 2" body lift. If you want to run 32's or 33's do it. If you don't want to spend several hundreds of dollars up front but want to run bigger tires.....DO IT!
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