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Unread 01-29-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
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Separating gear shifter

Not too long ago, someone posted a question on how to separate the shifter-the portion inside the cab that Jeep calls "lever assembly," from the shifter portion which goes into the transmission which Jeep officially calls "lever gearshift." They were trying to replace the round rubber boot which covers over the top of the shift tower. I pulled mine off this past weekend and needed to separate them to clean, and to just figure out how it's done. The FSM is completely silent on this process. First picture you will see I have the upper end of the lever, gearshift is wedged under the jaws of a vice, but not gripped in it so to speak. A pickle fork can then be used to span across the lever at the junction point between the two components of the shifter, complete: In the next picture which is of course posed, since it took a 14 yr old and an 11 year old to hold the rubber boots out of the way while I tapped upwards on the end of the pickle fork to separate the two portions of the assembly:


It didn't take too much force at all to separate these, but I was unable to separate them by just pulling apart. I did spray a little PB blaster down inside there to work its majic first.

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Unread 01-29-2008, 09:17 PM   #2
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Very good info.
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Not too long ago, someone posted a question on how to separate the shifter-the portion inside the cab that Jeep calls "lever assembly," from the shifter portion which goes into the transmission which Jeep officially calls "lever gearshift." They were trying to replace the round rubber boot which covers over the top of the shift tower. I pulled mine off this past weekend and needed to separate them to clean, and to just figure out how it's done. The FSM is completely silent on this process. First picture you will see I have the upper end of the lever, gearshift is wedged under the jaws of a vice, but not gripped in it so to speak. A pickle fork can then be used to span across the lever at the junction point between the two components of the shifter, complete: In the next picture which is of course posed, since it took a 14 yr old and an 11 year old to hold the rubber boots out of the way while I tapped upwards on the end of the pickle fork to separate the two portions of the assembly:


It didn't take too much force at all to separate these, but I was unable to separate them by just pulling apart. I did spray a little PB blaster down inside there to work its majic first.
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Unread 01-29-2008, 09:30 PM   #3
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Okay, I found the original post: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/gear-shift-boot-wtf-509665/
Honestly, I looked and looked and couldn't find the right search words to find the original thread. This information makes better sense if it had followed on as an answer to dmcanally's original post. I will PM him this thread and hopefully it will help him as well as others on the forum.
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Unread 01-29-2008, 10:10 PM   #4
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im just going to ship my transmission to you lol
you have solved two of the problems that i have had.
so keep them coming...

so what about a transmission that is possed by the devil? lol
i cant find that bowing smilie or i would put it up
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Unread 01-29-2008, 10:47 PM   #5
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that is awesome! thanks for the how-to! I have my first day off in almost a month tomorrow so I know what my morning is going to be spent doing :-).

Thanks again man
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Unread 01-29-2008, 11:12 PM   #6
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dmcanally, glad you got this and that it is fairly timely. Sorry I hadn't already tried this when you first posted but I am fairly new to the forum and am catching up. If you hadn't posted the question, I likely never would have bothered submitting the solution.
After you get it apart let us know how it went and then have a beer.
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Good work - nice simple approach, I never thought of using a pickle fork
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Adding in some photos of details that may be helpful to other aspects of this job. This is the stub, removed from the shift tower, and after the shift lever has been separated.



Detail of square end of stub



Bottom end of shifter, that slips back on the square end of the stub, 2 detail photos.



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yes I'm a some guy and have always put gasket sealer on my surfaces before mating
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You should go to Pirate. I hear they are real smart over there. You'd fit right in.

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Updating this post to include details of the Transfer case shifter. The transfer case shifter can also be removed from the shifter stub with a pickle fork as well.

This is what the end of the transfer case shifter looks like, there is a metal clip that holds it to the shifter stub as shown in the photo, you can also see the isolator inside the hub.



The notorious "Isolator" in hand. It fits on the inside of the shifter shaft.



This has the part number of the Isolator. It was on national backorder but somehow I got one from the dealership. This was Feb 07 or thereabouts.



As I understand the Isolator is available at Morris 4 X 4. Shifter Handle Isolator*3241481 by the Jeep Specialists | Morris 4x4 Center Link thanks to Mean Max.
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You should go to Pirate. I hear they are real smart over there. You'd fit right in.

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More updating--This is Jbolty's remedy.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...-fixed-585098/

The set screws were positioned over the grooves on the transfer case shifter stub, and thin strips of foam type material was placed similar to the function of the isolator.
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The notorious "Isolator" in hand. It fits on the inside of the shifter shaft.



This has the part number of the Isolator. It was on national backorder but somehow I got one from the dealership. This was Feb 07 or thereabouts.



As I understand the Isolator is available at Morris 4 X 4. Shifter Handle Isolator*3241481 by the Jeep Specialists | Morris 4x4 Center Link thanks to Mean Max.

I can attest to them being sold now. I bought 2 of them and they worked on both my trans shifter....and transfer case shifter.

I also bought the oil seal that fits under the shifter ball. Worked perfect!
Oil Seal - Fits Inside The Shift Retainer*4864226X by the Jeep Specialists | Morris 4x4 Center



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I just replaced the seal in the shift tower for the AX-15 in my wife's '93 YJ.

The shifter needs to be removed from the shift tower. Here you can see how the locking ring engages the 2 pins in the shift tower.
The pins can be seen in the tower pic a little farther down.


Here is the new seal.


It goes in the bottom of the shift tower shown here. The seal can be maneuvered around the pins. They cannot be removed from the casting.


The seal replacement can be done with the shift tower still mounted on the transmission. I had this one off anyway, but it's removal is not required.


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More updating--This is Jbolty's remedy.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/t...-fixed-585098/

The set screws were positioned over the grooves on the transfer case shifter stub, and thin strips of foam type material was placed similar to the function of the isolator.
And here is the picture,

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Oh what I would have given to have found this post a month ago (was searching for "remove shifter" instead of seperating). I've been beating the heck out of mine trying to remove it by hand or shim on the inside to release the locks. Didn't realize brute force would do the trick.
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Gently applied brute force, with restraint. It really doesn't take too much force. PB blaster first.

3 Things to know about the forum: Always PB blaster, Always check the FAQ, Always do a search, and if none of that works, ask Mean Max.
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