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Unread 08-01-2002, 10:30 AM   #1
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Seeking Jeep general info

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to join this forum!!

I am new to Jeeps but not to 4x4. I have a Ford F-250 PSD with 4x4.

Just now beginning to do the homework regarding Jeeps and am clueless as to what the various models are. IE: TJ, CJ and YJ.

Here is a quick senario that may narrow down what I would like in a Jeep.

Retiring in Loreto, Baja later this year and I want to obtain a Jeep for use there. It would be towed by the big truck to Loreto.

I am hoping the Jeep will be able to pull and launch/retreive a boat in the 5000lb + range, 7000lb with trailer. The "pull" will be only for a few blocks from my place to the ramp. I am hoping that with the low range, this is doable? This way I won't have to fire up the big diesel truck for the launch use.
I would also like it to run around town and to explore the local beaches and mountains. A class IV hitch would need to be installed....??...with the short distance to be pulled, is that necessary?

My thinking is a 6 cyl, manual trans model.
A soft top/bikini top would be ideal.
No frills are required.

What model year did the fuel injection become available?
What year did Chrysler assume the Jeep from AMC?

Out west, (San Diego, CA) the AutoTrader indicates a late 80ties to early 90ties model is being offered for between $4000k and $6000K..with some variables of course.
This seems to be in my price area and what I had in mind.

For this year model and price, is a Jeep going to be able to do what I have indicated above or come close?

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DC

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Unread 08-01-2002, 02:37 PM   #2
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5000+ lbs is heavy, what is the tongue weight??? If I remember correctly there is a 1000 LBS. tongue weight max, please don't quote me on that but I think that is what the manual says..
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Unread 08-01-2002, 04:39 PM   #3
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Tongue weights usually run, or should run about 10% of the total.

No long distances would be involved. Maybe 2 blocks is all.

Do any experts think that a Jeep could support, say <750# for this short distance?

I am aware of the braking constraints involved also.

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Unread 08-01-2002, 08:09 PM   #4
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In general, the rule of thumb is that the vehicle towing a trailer must not weigh less than the trailer it is towing.

That said, the Jeep weighs in around the 3000lb mark. I do not believe that Class4 hitches are even available for the YJ. Even if you used 4-low for towing, you would not be able to use it far, unless it was on dirt road only.

What might be a better choice for a tow vehicle would be the CJ-8 (manufactured till 1986) that has the optional V8 AMC 304ci engine. It has all the "goodies" that a YJ has .. the ability to go topless and such, but it does have a longer wheelbase which would allow for heavier towing.

The V8 engine, while not a huge powerhouse, could be swapped quickly for an AMC 360ci engine, or even go to the Dodge Ram 360 block (basically the same, only with fuel injection).

I realize that anything could be done (even towing a 7,000lb trailer behind a YJ) .. but would you want to take the chance at harming your tow-vehicle (or trailer or pedestrian or yourself) in a mishap and have the police charge you with dangerous towing / driving?
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Unread 08-02-2002, 07:04 AM   #5
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You already have a tow vehicle, don't make the Jeep something it is not. Yesterday I just saw a YJ towing a boat and just shook my head. I believe the max hitch you can get for a YJ is a class II.
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Unread 08-02-2002, 07:10 AM   #6
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CJ: 1986 and earlier Jeeps, for example, CJ-7, CJ-5, CJ-8(Scrambler)
YJ: 1987 to 1995 distinguished by its rectangular headlights
TJ: 1997 to present and has round headlights like the CJs
YJ and TJ are all called Wranglers but I think you are probably aware of that. There is no 1996 model year Wrangler.
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I believ the max hitch you can get for a YJ is a class II.
I have a class 3 hitch on my Jeep right now (the rock-crawler) .. but I use it more as a tug-point or bike-rack, or ski-rack than a hitch .. I will be getting a tent trailer to drag behind my Jeep that is light enough to be towed by a Harley motorbike
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Unread 08-02-2002, 02:09 PM   #8
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Thanks RC797......

I certainly don't want the Jeep to do anything that would put me or anyone else in an unsafe position.

But for towing the boat two (2) blocks?.....This will NOT be an over the road tow vehicle by any means. Got the big diesel for that chore.

A buddies old Willys 4 banger would tow a 3000# boat to the launch ramp and yank it out just fine....??
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Unread 08-02-2002, 02:18 PM   #9
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I guess the big thing is to be safe .. to me the distance is not what counts, its the fact that the vehicle would be pulling something that might be too large for it. With the short wheel base, the front wheels might not have enough traction to turn the vehicle in the direction you really want to go .. maybe putting some heavy weights (winch?) on the front to balance the weight would be in order ....
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Actually pulling the boat isn't the problem, trying to stop with the boat and manueuver it safely are the problems with the Wrangler as a tow vehicle. You can do whatever you want but I really don't see why you would even bother when you have a vehicle designed to tow a boat.
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