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Unread 12-19-2012, 05:45 PM   #166
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So I've been putting off updating this thread. These are some pictures from awhile back when I put the head back together

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After I got everything hooked back up It was not running correctly. I ended up pulling the timing cover and valve cover just to verify everything was correct. Ended up snapping two tabs and cracking the valve cover trying to get it back off :

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It ended up being that the distributor was a tooth early.

So since I pulled all that and broke the cover, I have to wait until I can get a spare one until it goes for inspection. Should have my hands on the valve cover from my brothers bad motor. I'll have that after December to put on

I also picked up a used AX5 for $75 to replace mine. It started making a bad grinding noise while coasting on the highway. I figure a bearing is toast

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Unread 12-24-2012, 08:47 AM   #167
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A little Christmas Eve wrenching landed me a good used valve cover

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I think I'll order a Fel-pro silicone gasket instead of using rtv and give that a shot.
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Unread 12-28-2012, 02:53 PM   #168
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So I set a goal today to get my garage in order for the move and ended up working on the jeep lol

Got the old rtv off the valve cover which was a couple hour job actually.

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And that's just the pile I pulled off the cover with my hands. There was a pile at my feet as well

Now I'm just waiting for the rubber gasket to get here, ordered it yesterday.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 10:24 PM   #169
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I have been working on my YJ, but not as much as I would have liked, considering I had 11 days off this holiday season.

But i have worked on the floors, and around my roll cage mount behind the seats, the floors were so rusted that i had to cut out the area where the bolts mounted, and the nut plates were all seized and i had to cut the bolts out to remove the cage.

can you find these anywhere? or should i just weld the roll cage to the floor?

THe other question i had.. i see you have the Hobart 140.. i have the hobart 170.. i love it..

i have had a problem on occasion of blasting through the existing metal. I have dialed it down to 1/50 and it seems to work ok, but my welds are a bit bigger than yours. Do you have any ideas? i am a novice welder.. i love doing it, and i know that practice will make perfect, but just seems like it is taking forever to get a working knowledge.

I will post some pics as soon as i think about it
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Unread 12-31-2012, 06:52 AM   #170
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I have been working on my YJ, but not as much as I would have liked, considering I had 11 days off this holiday season.

But i have worked on the floors, and around my roll cage mount behind the seats, the floors were so rusted that i had to cut out the area where the bolts mounted, and the nut plates were all seized and i had to cut the bolts out to remove the cage.

can you find these anywhere? or should i just weld the roll cage to the floor?

THe other question i had.. i see you have the Hobart 140.. i have the hobart 170.. i love it..

i have had a problem on occasion of blasting through the existing metal. I have dialed it down to 1/50 and it seems to work ok, but my welds are a bit bigger than yours. Do you have any ideas? i am a novice welder.. i love doing it, and i know that practice will make perfect, but just seems like it is taking forever to get a working knowledge.

I will post some pics as soon as i think about it
I know what you mean about not working on it as much as you'd like. I have the same issue from time to time

About the floor sections.. They make a pre stamped floor pans for the bottom Rollbar mount that has holes for the bolts, but it doesn't have the nuts themselves since they're in the support channel underneath. I had rust issues on that channel in that section and cut pieces of 16gauge and rebuilt it best I could. I didn't have to mess with the nuts but if I did I would have cut a replacement piece of metal and welded the nut to it mimicking the original style in the original locations. The same goes for the vertical piece with nuts behind it. I would measure the locations for the holes and create an identically located sheet with nuts welded to the back. It's a tough job but in the end you'll be able to remove your Rollbar if need be.

Your other question I might be able to give some insight on since I've had the same issue from time to time. I'm still learning too so I'll tell you what works for me. I *believe* my Hobart cheat sheet under the access panel tells me to use 1/20 for the sheet metal size on the tub. I've actually bumped it up to 1/30 to get better penetration in some spots but that was just trial and error. Ill have to check the sheet again to make sure im giving you the right numbers but i think i remembered it right.
The only places I've been burning through we're places that I got a little too hot (too long of a bead) or the metal was rusted to a point where it was thinner. To fix this I started running short beads then switching to the other side of the patch panel, then running another short bead. This gives the previous area time to cool, making it less likely for a burn through.
Again, not a pro by any means but id give that a shot and see how it works, since it worked for me.

Any other questions just let me know! And good luck on your jeep
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Unread 12-31-2012, 01:17 PM   #171
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Thanks sounds good.

Where did you get the metal pieces? i found my floor boards on ebay... they were $49.99 for both passenger and drivers floor boards. they are formed, but then they cut them to lay flatter in the shipping containers. i know, i should have bought the right ones.. but money is/was tight, so i needed to buy what i could afford.

i bought a piece of 18 guage and a piece of 20 gauge for the floors and the body work.. i just cut the pieces i need and weld them together, making my own floors so to speak, except for the passenger side floor (already done) and the driver's side, still yet to do.
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Unread 12-31-2012, 02:38 PM   #172
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great thread! Did you ever get it running right with the new head?
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Unread 12-31-2012, 04:07 PM   #173
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Thanks sounds good.

Where did you get the metal pieces? i found my floor boards on ebay... they were $49.99 for both passenger and drivers floor boards. they are formed, but then they cut them to lay flatter in the shipping containers. i know, i should have bought the right ones.. but money is/was tight, so i needed to buy what i could afford.

i bought a piece of 18 guage and a piece of 20 gauge for the floors and the body work.. i just cut the pieces i need and weld them together, making my own floors so to speak, except for the passenger side floor (already done) and the driver's side, still yet to do.
I got my panels from Quadratec. They were expensive lol. In retrospect I should have just got flat steel and did my own like you're doing. Lesson learned
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Unread 12-31-2012, 04:10 PM   #174
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man that is one crusty Jeep! it looks good in the first pic... then as you dug deeper into the under belly HOLY RUST BUCKET Batman! you're doing a great job! keep it up and us posted!
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Unread 12-31-2012, 04:10 PM   #175
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great thread! Did you ever get it running right with the new head?
Thanks! And the jury is still out on that one. I haven't been able to get the new valve cover on to check how it runs and since two main vacuum lines hook to the valve cover (currently left open) its running with vac leaks. I did however get the popping to go away. The distributor was off a tooth (early). So I got that straightened out and now have to wait for a good time to do the cover. I'm in the middle of a move so hopefully I can do it sometime this week after work.
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Unread 12-31-2012, 04:13 PM   #176
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man that is one crusty Jeep! it looks good in the first pic... then as you dug deeper into the under belly HOLY RUST BUCKET Batman! you're doing a great job! keep it up and us posted!
Thanks.. Yeah it's overall appearance definitely hid its rust issues. It's been a long time getting the rust out of the tub so hopefully it holds up!
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Unread 01-06-2013, 05:57 PM   #177
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New valve cover on and no leaks yet. Still doesn't run right (cat started glowing red again) so i had to call aaa to tow it to the new house.

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Unread 01-06-2013, 07:19 PM   #178
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Dumping too much fuel. Got to be a cal issue. O2 or the cts.
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Unread 01-06-2013, 08:45 PM   #179
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Dumping too much fuel. Got to be a cal issue. O2 or the cts.
Cal? Problem is that both of them were recently replaced, but I guess it's possible that I got a bad one.

It was def throwing carbon in the exhaust today. Fuel pressure was fine at 100kpa when I checked a couple weeks ago so that's not the problem
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Unread 01-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #180
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The adjustments. I think you need to double check and make sure the O2 sensor its functioning right.
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