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Unread 09-21-2009, 02:53 PM   #1
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rustoleum truck bed coating?

Im wanting to line the inside of my YJ with a roll on type bed liner this week. Everybody says to go with the Herculiner when I read through the forums. But I can get a gallon of Rustoleum truck bed coating from Wally World for only $43.97. Regardless of which brand you go with, youre getting the same basic product: a polyurethane base, with suspended recycled tire chunks. But what is the difference that would make Herculiner worth the bigger price tag?

I also like the fact that the Rustoleum has spray cans so I can touch it up for $6 later if I need to.

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Unread 09-21-2009, 03:13 PM   #2
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I can tell you the Duplicolor bed liner is garbage, I did my truck bed and the stuff peels and fades fast in the NM sun.

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Unread 09-21-2009, 05:47 PM   #3
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I can tell you the Duplicolor bed liner is garbage, I did my truck bed and the stuff peels and fades fast in the NM sun.

Dwayne
Interesting. Did you use and abuse it much? Or did it just peel on it's own? And did you coat it very thick?

Also, does anyone have any experience with the Rustoleum stuff?
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Unread 09-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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I used the Rustoleum stuff in my truck. I stripped the bed down to bare metel primered the coated. The stuff peeled with the first bolt on a tranny that touched it. Maybe I shouldn't have used th eprimer but the bed was galvenized (SP?) so I thought it best. As far as the rest herc, duplicolor, I know that the temprature can't be above 85*. I didn't know that way back when I first coated my truck bed with the Herculiner. It didn't stick to everything. That's why I stripped the bed to bare metel this time. I would use the Herc if it were me.
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Unread 09-21-2009, 05:56 PM   #5
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I used the rustoleum bedliner on my jeep. It looks really good and seems to be pretty durable. I had primered my tub before i applied it.
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I used the rustoleum stuff on a center console I built that I wanted to waterproof. Its decent but not as durable/thick as the herc and it doesnt have the texture pieces in it, its very smooth compared to the herc.
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Unread 09-21-2009, 08:15 PM   #7
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I used the rustoleum bedliner on my jeep. It looks really good and seems to be pretty durable. I had primered my tub before i applied it.
How long have you had it on there? And do you run without the top in the summer at all?


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it doesnt have the texture pieces in it
That might be a deal breaker any way. I like the rough look.
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Unread 09-22-2009, 11:13 AM   #8
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I tried the rustoleum, and I leave the top off all summer. Most of it is ok, but it's peeling where your feet go. Also it does scratch easy. I would either spring for a good bedliner, or always keep a spray can with you for touch ups.
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Unread 09-22-2009, 12:18 PM   #9
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my neighbor uses it on his f250 bed and loves it. he rebuilds army trailers and transports heavy axles weekly in his truck. he says he touches it up once a year for scratches here and there, but mainly because a fresh coat makes it look darker and shinier. he said he got 4 heavy coats on his truck bed and still had plenty left over..

it all depends on what you want and what your budget is. i can tell you that my interior tub is herc and its very gritty, to the point of it hurts bare skin. his bedliner is softer.. dont know why and dont know if one is better or not....

i would say alot also has to do with prep. your supposed to scuff and sand before applying the stuff, and if you dont do that, it wont adhere as well. i also know its supposed to be low humidity and above 75f.

so yeah its really up to you. for half the price it would be worth it to try out, just prep it right. if its so bad you hate it.. just lay some herc on top later.

that way youll have the peice of mind of knowing you tried to save money and failed, and if you document it here, others might search and read you info and make a more informed decision later as well.
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Unread 09-22-2009, 01:44 PM   #10
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I don't think you can hurc over the top of the other, as it peals, it'll take the top most coating with it, I used the duplicolor from wally world, used a 60 grit 7" sander on the bed and put 2 coats on because it looked so thin. The first thing I trossed in the back took a big chunk out it.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 02:52 AM   #11
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I used the Rustoleum stuff in my truck. I stripped the bed down to bare metel primered the coated. The stuff peeled with the first bolt on a tranny that touched it. Maybe I shouldn't have used th eprimer but the bed was galvenized (SP?) so I thought it best. As far as the rest herc, duplicolor, I know that the temprature can't be above 85*. I didn't know that way back when I first coated my truck bed with the Herculiner. It didn't stick to everything. That's why I stripped the bed to bare metel this time. I would use the Herc if it were me.
The galvanized metal was the cause of the problem. Regular paints and primers do not adhere to galvanized metal. To properly prep galvanized metals, you need to use poly-resin based paint for the best results. It's usually only carried by specialty paint shops and is not cheap. In any case, it would not have mattered either way...the Rustoleum bed liner should not be applied to galvanized surfaces (says it on the can).

To get back on topic here, DIY bed liners (regardless of brand) will produce varied results. I say it all comes down to budget, personal preference, and the amount of up keep you intend to do. 90% of the guys in my unit have trucks or Jeeps. We're all DIY types who've had some experience with the various bed liners...after compiling their experineces, this is what I know.

Herculiner is pretty durable. It's thicker base and high rubber content keeps it pliable (in moderate temperatures) after curing. Cold will cause it to shrink and depending on age it can get brittle. In the heat or with prolonged sun exposure, it tends to get a tacky feel to it and sometimes smells. I think it still comes in only 4 colors and anything other than black will cost more. Herculiner feels really gritty and abrasive, but gets better as it wears down. A guy has white Herculiner all over his chopped Bronco. It's been on there for about 4 years and is slightly faded, peeling in some areas, and has sand embedded from where he puts his surfboards. Not bad in my book. I'm wondering if anyone painted black Herculiner? Does that stop it from getting tacky?

Durabak/Cote-L is similar to Herculiner in application and texture, but the cost is about $100/gallon. On the plus side, it comes in 15 colors (more if you're daring enough to mix) and includes UV protection. It can be brushed on, but spraying is highly recommended. The end result is less gritty than Herculiner, its feel and durability is a lot like the "professional" stuff. I've seen it on a dropped Colorado, the guy doesn't haul much...a cooler or occasional keg, maybe his gear once and awhile. He applied it 2 years ago, and aside from it being a fugly yellow I don't see any fading and no major scratches.

Magnaliner...good stuff. Like the above 2, it can be brushed, rolled, or sprayed. It's another that offers several colors and UV resistance adding to its durability. This one goes on really thick, and supposedly bonds to the metal (plastic and wood too). Thicker means fewer coats are required, which is good news because the 1 gallon kit costs almost $200. The motor pool guys used a bunch of 1 pint samples to coat the back of a utility truck, then painted it OD green. They've hauled some really gnarly crap. So far, the paint is pretty beat up, but the liner appears fine.

Monsterliner is made by the same company as Magnaliner and claims to be the toughest of all the DIY bedliners. It's a two part 100% UV blocking mix that really is tough. This bonds like epoxy and can really take a beating. The SSgt that has this on this Tacoma usually tosses ammo cans and equipment cases into his bed...aside from the few dings and dents from the abuse, I haven't found any scratches in the lining. He picked up the 1 gallon mix for $120.

Rustoleum is great because it's cheap and easy to find. Walmart, K-Mart and most hardware stores have it in 15oz spray or 124oz cans. Note that while it can be brushed on, spraying is recommended. Rustoleum goes on thin and smooth, so if you want durability, plan on doing multiple coats for the best results. 2 or 3 coats may seem like a lot, but think of that as just a start. Coats should be applied 20-30 minutes apart, so plan on spending a lot of time on the application. If done right, you get a smoother more finished look. Something to consider, more coats = more product...the final cost would be about the same or usually more than Herculiner. The cured product has a feel and texture similar to vinyl vehicle cladding, textured yet smooth. I've used this twice on my own cladding after stripping the Krylon Fusion crap. Twice because I put a UV satin clear coat on it. The first time I didn't let it cure long enough. I don't garage my ZJ and after a year, it's holding its color. I've had to touch up a minor bumper scuff from a buddy who rubbed a concrete pillar. After a quick cleaning and respraying, it blended right in. I've also used it on my kids bikes, tool box, and lawn mower. Ok, so I bought too much.

Duplicolor...I've read a lot of opinions about the product, mostly negative. The majority of people calling it crap are trying to use it for something it wasn't designed for. But when it comes to its use as a bed liner, it's not that bad. It's very easy to apply and just like the others, durability depends on how many coats you put on. One negative about this product that is true about Duplicolor is its poor color retention. It seems to fade faster than the others when exposed to UV. A civilian carpenter contractor has it on his work truck, it looks chalky and beat up (scuffed). But it's still intact after a year of hauling lumber, cabinets, tools, etc. I've seen him put Armor All on it, which made it look like new, but was very slippery.

Line-X, not really a DIY product, but can be if you find some. It's supposed to be professionally sprayed, but even brushed on it looks really good. During the curing process, Line-X evens out and any brush marks disappear. Curing is supposed to be done in a paint room, but we did it with hair dryers set on low and a whole afternoon. Cost was $90/quart. Not really worth it, since we probably could've gone to the local "Lava Lining" shop to get a professional job done for about $50 more.

Bed liners vary in price...so remember the old caveat, you get what you pay for. 2 part epoxy type liners will cost the most and last longer. The cheaper ones cost less to reapply. When it comes to textures, I guess that would come down to where and how you plan to apply it (I wouldn't want to sit in a truck bed that feels like gravel). Color should be a non-issue because most bed liners are paintable just make sure you read the labels for compatibility...the same goes for any UV clear coats.

I believe the key to a good end result is in the prep work. Read labels carefully. Don't use primer if it doesn't say to, and if it does use what it the label recommends. If a part can be removed and painted, as with cladding and bumpers, do it. Heavier product will adhere better if you lay the surface flat. Prepare and clean the surface accordingly. Once you're done, go over it again because there's no such thing as over prep. Don't rush it...when it comes to drying/curing times, I say ignore the label these are just recommendations under the perfect conditions. Dry to handle doesn't mean you should...resist the urge and let it sit longer, there's nothing worse than a finger print ruining a perfect spray job. Full cure times can vary from 3 days to 3 weeks. A good rule of thumb here is to multiply that by 1-1/2, just to be sure and even then don't start beating on it right away...even the "pros" tell you not to haul things for a few weeks. Something that is often overlooked is the weather, pay attention to humidity and temperature. Even if you use heat lamps, winter probably isn't the best time to paint things. And if there's even a slight chance of rain during the week, you may want to put off starting the job. Herculiner (according the notes about how it cures) is the only one I know of that cures faster with higher humidity.

Hope this helps someone.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:29 AM   #12
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colt808 has some real good info there, throwing my .02 cents in the painter in my shop put the herculiner in his jeep and he has put it on some other stuff it does come in colors but he gets the white and mixes in a drop of paint to make it the color needed and that seems to work but also since he is the painter in a body shop he sprays it of course, his has turned out good but I never checked for gritiness and he used two kits on his jeep tub, around here its about 135.00 a kit how ever line-x told me to spray mine with everything out and the tub preped it would be 700.00 so guess what I am gonna go for? lol
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:52 AM   #13
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I would've never thought to use paint to color Herculiner. That definitely gives more options than black, red, grey, and white. Now if there were a UV additive that wouldn't dilute it too much, then I think it'd be the winner hands down.

$700 for a Line-X application is close to Rhino and the others. Labor is always the killer when having someone else do it. Better to DIY and save the money for important things like beer.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 06:28 AM   #14
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I used DupliColor as an undercoating on my Lil Red Express truck project. It came off in large flakes and sheets within 350 miles of application. This truck was completely stripped to bare metal and primed with PPG epoxy primer before the DupliColor was installed.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 07:49 AM   #15
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I used the Rustol spray stuff on my bumper and the drain plugs in the tub but Herced the tub so I've seen both.
The Herc is MUCH more flexible. The spray stuff gets brittle and breaks off when you bounce off great big rocks I think if you prep the interior really good it would be alright but the Herc stuff isn't that much more expensive and I think worth it. I'm trying to find somewhere to blast my bumpers and I'm going to herc them too.
The spray stuff iworks great for a thinner pretty durable finish, perfect for the drain plugs and stuff like my extinguisher mount.
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