post #1 of Old 08-09-2013, 12:29 AM Thread Starter
1993bigblueyj
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Reverse rotation Steering box

I have a wrangler yj that i need a reverse rotation steering box for. Mounts on the inside of the frame not the outside edge. what is a make and model of a car i could use one off of?

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post #2 of Old 08-09-2013, 07:23 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the wrangler mount on the inside?

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post #3 of Old 08-09-2013, 10:03 AM
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If I'm not mistaken all Wrangler steering boxes mount on the inside.
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post #4 of Old 08-09-2013, 10:38 AM
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All steering boxes rotate the same whether mounted inside or outside the frame. Its all about the rotation of the output shaft, how the pitman arm is designed and attached to the output shaft and how the drag link and tie rod work together. Steering boxes can have the pitman arm face forward of the box, face rearward of the box and some even have the pitman arm designed to be 90* to the box.

There are multiple boxes Jeepers use on their Jeeps to compensate for wheelbase change, frame limitations, front axle swap, suspension interference, etc.

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post #5 of Old 08-09-2013, 10:44 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, All wranglers mount to the inside, but i need a box that the pitman sticks out the front(reverse rotation). I have found reverse rotation boxes, but they are designed to mount on the outside of the frame. I cannot find a box that will mount to a yj and is reverse rotation. Any suggestions?
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post #6 of Old 08-09-2013, 10:54 AM
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IIRC Chevy Astro Van is what your looking for.
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post #7 of Old 08-09-2013, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
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4wd or Rwd?
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post #8 of Old 08-09-2013, 05:20 PM
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Astro van box like jsawduste said. But you better be running a big front stretch or you will end up with a goofy drag link angle.

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What yr astro van box will work on a yj? Getting ready to stretch mine with xj springs.

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I have a box out of a late 70's ford fullsize van. Its a standard Saginaw steering box, but the pitman arm stuck out front. I saved it from the van that was going to the junkyard. I pulled the pitman arm off and was going to use it on my fullsize Cherokee. Much to my surprise when I bolted on the jeep pitman arm, it steered backwards!...lol For some reason I saved that steering box.

What have you done to your YJ that you need a box with the pitman arm sticking out forward?

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What yr astro van box will work on a yj? Getting ready to stretch mine with xj springs.
i run the astro steering box, i got mine from a 95 , i also run xj springs with ford ranger main leaf added. also, the astro box didnt have much turning radius as i would of liked, so i used a waggy pitman arm and got more steering



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Is there a reason you can't maintain the stock box/pitman arm and just change the side of the knuckle the drag ling attaches to?

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Is there a reason you can't maintain the stock box/pitman arm and just change the side of the knuckle the drag ling attaches to?
It will steer backwards. steering right would turn left.

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It will steer backwards. steering right would turn left.
If you put the pitman arm on the front of a steering box that turns the same way, same thing happens.

On a stock YJ when you turn the steering wheel right, the pitman arm points towards the passenger side of the Jeep, which pushes the front of the tires to the right.

If the astro box turns the same way with the pitman arm on the front of the box, when you turn the steering wheel right, the pitman arm would point towards the driver's side of the Jeep, which pushes the front of the tires to the left.

On the stock YJ box and the drag link attached to the back of the knuckle, when you turn the steering wheel right, the pitman arm would point to the passenger side, and push the rear of the tires to the right, making the Jeep turn left.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what the Astro box does, because in my head switching the drag link to the other side of the knuckle accomplishes the same thing as the Astro box?

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i run the astro steering box, i got mine from a 95 , i also run xj springs with ford ranger main leaf added. also, the astro box didnt have much turning radius as i would of liked, so i used a waggy pitman arm and got more steering



Thanks. I did some more search and found that 87-95 work and so does 97 and up but the have a weaker seal. Also it has to be out of a rwd and not awd. Just a little FYI.

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