[91yjeeper]

I have recently removed my rear track bar, and sure enough, I have gained a lot of flex. I am planning on taking off the front track bar also. but, I was wondering, aren't these things there for a reason? Are thier any dangers or anything I should be aware of when I remove these? Has anyone had probs because they removed them?

[BobSterner]

Ive had mine off for bout 3 years now. I only reinstall them to have it inspected here in Pa. The only reason they were put on from factory is to make the NTSB happy. Just removing them on a stock YJ greatly improves the ride. The suspension is not so rigid. You will be AMAZED when you see how much flex you get out of the front when you remove it. If im not mistaken, lifts over 3.5-4 in. its recomended by the manufacturer to remove them compleatly.

Best thing to do........ Try it. If you dont like it. Put them back on. I dont think you will be disapointed

[FunkSkunk]

trac bar helps keep the axle firmly implace. its very important in coil sprun jeeps but with a YJ using leafs all around it isn't as neccesary since the leafs keep the axle in place themselves. yeah try it if you don't like it but it back on, but be warned that stupid bolt takes forever to take off! And i think its a large torx so go buy a good set of those

[surfzup2k]

Originally Posted by FunkSkunk

trac bar helps keep the axle firmly implace. its very important in coil sprun jeeps but with a YJ using leafs all around it isn't as neccesary since the leafs keep the axle in place themselves. yeah try it if you don't like it but it back on, but be warned that stupid bolt takes forever to take off! And i think its a large torx so go buy a good set of those

T55 i think....................

[Bike Guy]

Originally Posted by surfzup2k

T55 i think....................

I just (30min. ago) removed my rear & front TB from my 91 YJ W/ 2.5" ProComp lift & 31x10.5x15 TA- AT tires. The ride was much better after removing the rear, but when I removed the front I'm having MAJOR torque steer (this is a problem I've been fighting for two months). Even worse then before . I also could use advice about this.
For more info. about my fight,check out Thread: Suspension problem with 91 YJ. Thanks and I wish FunkSkunk MUCH better luck then I'm having. Bike Guy

[CanukYJ]

I wanna remove my rear, the shock tube is in the way of the nut and the torx on the other side I'm sure if completely fused with rust. I think I will just hacksaw it off this summer.

[surfzup2k]

Originally Posted by Bike Guy

I just (30min. ago) removed my rear & front TB from my 91 YJ W/ 2.5" ProComp lift & 31x10.5x15 TA- AT tires. The ride was much better after removing the rear, but when I removed the front I'm having MAJOR torque steer (this is a problem I've been fighting for two months). Even worse then before . I also could use advice about this.
For more info. about my fight,check out Thread: Suspension problem with 91 YJ. Thanks and I wish FunkSkunk MUCH better luck then I'm having. Bike Guy

tq steer with a rear wheel drive vehicle

[surfzup2k]

Both of mine are gone and i have the sway bar disco'd all the time. I have no problems other than it "drives like a jeep"

[Bike Guy]

Originally Posted by surfzup2k

Both of mine are gone and i have the sway bar disco'd all the time. I have no problems other than it "drives like a jeep"

Since I'm new to this (Jeep Thing). Does ride like a Jeep mean that when I acelerate hard it should shoot to the left & decelerate hard it goes to the right. This makes it very hard to acelerate to pass vehicle in tight trafic. HELP! Bike Guy

[RideRed04]

Sounds to me like you have a locker or a welded rear diff. In 2x4, you should not have the steering affected at all by accel/decel. take it on a parking lot with some hard packed snow, and you'll be able to tell pretty quick if both spin (especially going around a corner). A less fun, but probably more sure way to tell is to put the rear end up on jack stands and try to spin one tire. if the other one spins the oppsite direction, you have open diffs. If they spin the same way, its locked up (congrags!). I have both my trackbars off, and I have no ill affects. If it's not a locked up rear, then your front spring bushings are shot.

[Bike Guy]

Originally Posted by RideRed04

Sounds to me like you have a locker or a welded rear diff. In 2x4, you should not have the steering affected at all by accel/decel. take it on a parking lot with some hard packed snow, and you'll be able to tell pretty quick if both spin (especially going around a corner). A less fun, but probably more sure way to tell is to put the rear end up on jack stands and try to spin one tire. if the other one spins the oppsite direction, you have open diffs. If they spin the same way, its locked up (congrags!). I have both my trackbars off, and I have no ill affects. If it's not a locked up rear, then your front spring bushings are shot.

I do not have a locker and my springs & bushings (greasable) are new. Actually almost ALL of my suspension is new.
I was looking at my track Bar and noticed that it not parallel to my Drag Link. I've heard that this can cause bump steer, which in my eyes is the same as the torque steer we would get in 1/4 milers (Drag Cars). As I see it when I have hard deceleration steering (to the right) issues, it"s the same as loading the suspension from hitting a bump. What do you thing?

And to Surfzup2k- Yes Torque steer on a rear wheel drive. (when you unload the front suspension, by acceleration causing something to turn the steering). in this case maybe the pitman arm pulling on the drag link. Ciao, Bike Guy

[RCHavok797]

Originally Posted by Bike Guy

Since I'm new to this (Jeep Thing). Does ride like a Jeep mean that when I acelerate hard it should shoot to the left & decelerate hard it goes to the right. This makes it very hard to acelerate to pass vehicle in tight trafic. HELP! Bike Guy

The ride you are experiencing in your Jeep is not a "Jeep thing". You have some serious issues going on and from what you describe I would be scared to drive your Jeep at highway speeds. I hope someone on here can help you get it taken care of.

[RideRed04]

Ahhh, this helps muy much senoir. The important ones that need to be parallel are the drag link and tierod. I'm guessing that they are not, listening to your problem. You need to get a droped pitman arm, or do a hi-steer to get the geometry correct. What is happening is the cycling of the suspention is pulling your drag link against the tie rod more then the allowable amount, causing it to steer for you. Your 1/4 mile analogy is right on. Get the geometry right, and if you still have problems, get an alignment.

[Bike Guy]

Originally Posted by RideRed04

Ahhh, this helps muy much senoir. The important ones that need to be parallel are the drag link and tierod. I'm guessing that they are not, listening to your problem. You need to get a droped pitman arm, or do a hi-steer to get the geometry correct. What is happening is the cycling of the suspention is pulling your drag link against the tie rod more then the allowable amount, causing it to steer for you. Your 1/4 mile analogy is right on. Get the geometry right, and if you still have problems, get an alignment.

It has a fresh alignment on it. So I'm thinking of buying a dropped P.A..
My question to you is; what is a Hi-steer? I'm not familiar with this item.


91yjeeper, please except my apology for tying up your thread with my problems.
Replies can be PM or if you would like you can go to my thread ( Suspension problems with 91YJ) THANKS ALL, BIKE GUY

[TellyDSP]

I personally think the rear can go. As far as the front, tey it. I personally had it off for a day, and almost killed myself. I put on my 4.5" kit, and left the TB off for a day. The bump steer was so rediculous, that I was afraid to drive it because I would get thrown a lane to the side when I hit a bump. Needless to say I put the TB back on.

The ride was much better after removing the rear, but when I removed the front I'm having MAJOR torque steer (this is a problem I've been fighting for two months). Even worse then before . I also could use advice about this.

If you have it off, put it back on. One thing you might want to do when you put it back on is make sure your TB and drag link are parallel. The more off they are, the more bumpsteer you will get because there flex travel lines will be different.

HTH
Craig