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Old02-22-2009, 12:12 AM #1
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PSC power steering pulley help

I purchased the psc power steering pump pulley after talking to quadratec and them telling me that it would work with my stock pump. My stock pulley was cracked and on its way out so I figured "upgrading" would best vs another stock pulley. I got it last week and I went to put it on today and my bolt and washer trick worked pretty well but only got it on 95% of the way. I thought I would put the belt back on and just see if that was good enough. Nope. It pulled the belt 1/2 way off of the lower pulley. I broke down and bought the $30 pulley installed that would work and installed it the other 5% of the way and I am still having problems with it pulling the belt 1/2 way off of the lower pulley. I know that the pulley is seated as far as it will go because I broke the installer tool trying to press the pulley on further. Does anyone else run this pulley or have any experience with this pulley? If not do you have any ideas? I know pictures tell more of the story that I can ever describe, so see below.







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Old02-22-2009, 09:02 AM #2
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Looks like in the pictures that the pump shaft is not flush with the end of the pulley. If the pulley is not flush with the shaft, then you will have the problem that you are having. Either the pulley is too small or the pump shaft is too big. Have you tried to put the old pulley on the new pump?
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I cant really tell from the pics, and that pully is way diffrent than the stock one. But is there any chance that the pully could be on backwards?
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I cant really tell from the pics, and that pully is way diffrent than the stock one. But is there any chance that the pully could be on backwards?
that would be my guess. or it is the wrong pully all together.
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Yea, looks like the pulley is on backwards. The offset is supposed to face the pump body and the fourth pic down shows the pulley hub shoulder facing out and it should be faced inwards.
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Yea, looks like the pulley is on backwards. The offset is supposed to face the pump body and the fourth pic down shows the pulley hub shoulder facing out and it should be faced inwards.
x 2 This the same pulley I use with my PSC steering system. You got`s it on backwards dude.
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Have you tried to put the old pulley on the new pump?
I put back on my nearly broken stock one and everything is okay but it will not last much longer so I either (a) have to figure out how to get this one to work or (b) just give in and order a stock replacement



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Yea, looks like the pulley is on backwards. The offset is supposed to face the pump body and the fourth pic down shows the pulley hub shoulder facing out and it should be faced inwards.
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x 2 This the same pulley I use with my PSC steering system. You got`s it on backwards dude.

But if I were to put it on the other way then how would I get it off if I ever needed to? The groves that the power steering pulley puller fit into were facing forward the way I installed it. If I put it the other way the groove would be towards the pump.








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I cant really tell from the pics, and that pully is way diffrent than the stock one. But is there any chance that the pully could be on backwards?
Yes it is different all around from the stock one. From Quadratec's website: "Smaller than stock pulley - provides better low rpm performance."
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Think I see what the problem is now. The pulley you have looks like it is a PP-2401 and you should have a PP-2411. The PP-2411 does not have the dish offset on the outer side of the pulley like yours does. Think Quadratec sent you the wrong pulley. I realize its stamped 2411 but I'd still check with PSC.

You should be able to verify that tomorrow morning by calling PSC tech support. 817.270.0102 Ask for Kelvin
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Old02-23-2009, 12:38 PM #9
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Think I see what the problem is now. The pulley you have looks like it is a PP-2401 and you should have a PP-2411. The PP-2411 does not have the dish offset on the outer side of the pulley like yours does. Think Quadratec sent you the wrong pulley. I realize its stamped 2411 but I'd still check with PSC.
Very odd. The 2411 does have a rear lip/spacer as it turns out, and that is *suppose* to fit 91-95. The 2401 has no rear lip/spacer but is suppose to be for 97-05. PSC said that in my case, it looks like I need a 2401. Quad said they had never heard of this for a YJ and that "everyone else" with a YJ has a rear/lip spacer (the 2411 as seen in the pictures above). When I get the new pulley, we'll see what happens. I just want it to work!!

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Old03-10-2009, 05:03 PM #10
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Update:

Got the replacement finally today. Pix below. I will install and let everyone know what happens.

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Just out of curiosity, whats the benefit of this and how much was it?
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looks like that belt is pretty hammered too, im sure thats not helping your issue. That pulley is supposed to help keep the pump cooler ? is that the idea ? or is it an underdrive pulley?
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that belt got chewed up cause the pulley was forcing it to run 1/2 ****ed

the basis behind that pulley...

its smaller in diameter, meaning, it will spin faster at idle and help pump more fluid,,, for cooling the pump, and pump more fluid making steering lighter/easier to turn..



im also looking into this option at the moment,,
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that belt got chewed up cause the pulley was forcing it to run 1/2 ****ed
Yup...I have a brand new belt to go one, ONCE I verify that the pulley will work correctly.

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thats pretty cool, I wish I had known about this when I did my 99+ intake swap. I had to use a tj power steering pump and the pulley that came on it looked like a dog chewed on it so I bought a stock replacement for 25 bucks. Even that one has a small crack in it already, maybe ill replace it with one of these
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