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Unread 03-04-2013, 09:48 AM   #31
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NO...

Only if I win the lotto or really enjoying swapping tires will I have over 2gs worth of tires/rims sitting in my garage collecting dust 98% of the time. To me switching tires togo wheeling isnt going to happen. If you DD the jeep get something that'll last(km2/mtrk). Km2/mtrk's will work well for the majority of people and are very similar.

If you occasionaly DD or value traction over street miles get something that will hook up and last offroad(creepy or pbr). The creepys are surprisingly good on the road and if I can balance them somewhat they'll be perfect for me.

Its all a compromise people have to make and actually figure out what they are going todo with the jeep. There is no tire that has the traction of a creepy in the woods and and rides like an AT/ko on the street.

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Unread 03-04-2013, 09:53 AM   #32
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I've heard of people pouring BB's into them to make them balance but I'm not sure how or why does this work? Could someone explain? Also I heard that HMMWV rims actually *are* legal for the street, the only DOT-approved beadlock that exists. Since the interstate highway system is supposed to be for the military (officially).
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:02 AM   #33
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I am impressed. Though a little hard to see it looks like you have a steering set up that actually makes sense. Featuring a bit of positive Ackerman, decent scrub and little to no bump steer. People should take notice on steering done right.

Ditch the MT/R`s when they wear out and snag the newer Kevlar versions or a set of PBR`s.
John, Chris (92 Vegas YJ) is running my old steering (MORE) and running my old HPD30 polished/trussed/sleeved housing.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:04 AM   #34
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I run 36 super swamper irok bias, on and offroad. I don't have a bad thing to say about them, other than stay away from the radial swampers...Every radial I've tried has shifted a belt while it was aired down off road causing it to never balance right again. I no longer buy radial for the jeep nemore, bias from here on out for me. Last pair of radials had 40% tread left and couldn't drive faster than 30 without a shimmy once the belt shifted, had a set of Mickey Thompsons do the same thing...I just refuse to pay that high of price and not use every little bit of tread left on them, so bias is the way to go for me.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:36 AM   #35
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MTR Kevlar. Best tires I have ever run.

In the type of stuff we run over around here there is no end to flat tires, cut sidewalls and popped beads. These tires have avoided all that and are happy to run down to 8 psi without beadlocks.

As for the the A/T KO, there are a really good choice for a daily driver. They are quiet, have decent traction and are long lasting on the street. Crappy sidewalls though.




These procomp? Crap.



MTR's is what I run also.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:47 AM   #36
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I've still got my little 30" BFG A/T KO's on. We had about a foot of fresh snow fall here yesterday and they were perfectly fine in them, whether I was making fresh tracks or slogging it up a hill covered in churned up snow mush (all on-road). My YJ's a DD so have never had it on any extreme offroad or rock crawling. It seems to do fine with these tires on anything else, though. I am likely getting 33x10.50x15 in a week or so though and will be sticking with the BFG A/T KO's again. My YJ's sporting a nice new OME 2.5" lift with 1" shackles so the little 30's are looking even smaller now.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:51 AM   #37
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Falken Rocky Mountain ATS extremely quiet on the road but with enough grip offroad to get the job done. Also the price was right on them, I believe I got all 4 for around $600.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 10:54 AM   #38
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Currently running Cooper Discoverer STT in 31x10.50
They've been great for all around use the last 2+ years I've had them (almost 3 actually)
Same here

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Unread 03-04-2013, 03:43 PM   #39
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I've still got my little 30" BFG A/T KO's on. We had about a foot of fresh snow fall here yesterday and they were perfectly fine in them, whether I was making fresh tracks or slogging it up a hill covered in churned up snow mush (all on-road). My YJ's a DD so have never had it on any extreme offroad or rock crawling. It seems to do fine with these tires on anything else, though. I am likely getting 33x10.50x15 in a week or so though and will be sticking with the BFG A/T KO's again. My YJ's sporting a nice new OME 2.5" lift with 1" shackles so the little 30's are looking even smaller now.
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Yeah I love my BFG's in the snow too, I'm a bit south of you tho (buffalo NY area)
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Unread 03-04-2013, 03:59 PM   #40
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I am impressed. Though a little hard to see it looks like you have a steering set up that actually makes sense. Featuring a bit of positive Ackerman, decent scrub and little to no bump steer. People should take notice on steering done right.

Ditch the MT/R`s when they wear out and snag the newer Kevlar versions or a set of PBR`s.
Thank you. That really means a lot coming from you.

As Joe said I am running his old MORE setup(except now with 1.5x.250" DOM) and his old front D30.

You really disliked the old MTRs that much?
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Unread 03-04-2013, 04:46 PM   #41
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Thank you. That really means a lot coming from you.

As Joe said I am running his old MORE setup(except now with 1.5x.250" DOM) and his old front D30.

You really disliked the old MTRs that much?
Thanks for the kind words. All the complaints of ill handling rigs can often be traced back to poor design and execution of the steering set up. Again, yours looks pretty well done and I`ll bet it handles pretty well.

I found the MT/R`s (old style) to have too flexible of a sidewall unless they were pumped up in air pressure. Hard to balance and the profile whether they are mounted on a 8 or 10 inch BL to still be quite rounded.

Conversely the Maxxis CC`s I ran at the same time were so much better.....read stiffer sidewall/flatter profile........in handling. Plus they balanced out nicely. Downside to the CC`s was the compound. Street driving just ate `em up.

The YJ handled better with sub 10 psi in the CC`s over the MT/R`s with 28 psi plus. I had to run them (MT/R`s) that high to combat a sidewall induced flex. The the MT/R`s rounded profile was exacerbated at the higher pressures.

Take a look at these pictures. See how the center is well worn while the outers are still pretty meaty ? This on a 10 inch wide BL that should have flattened the profile out and stiffened the sidewall.



The PBR`s are nice and flat. Even with the 50 psi in them to set the bead for the BL`s they are still much flatter then the MT/R`s. I am running the PBR`s at around 22 psi and they handle and ride very well. Full tread width on the ground thus good wearing across the face and better traction.

Blaine likes the old MT/R`s FOR the flexible sidewall. He likes the fact that they tend to wrinkle up like a drag slick then spring forward while crawling. That works for him in JV but we don`t have that type of terrain here in Mi.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 08:49 PM   #42
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Goodyear wrangler MT/R's.
These are the new style, they are a bit quieter than the old MT/r's

Are those supposed to be directional? the tread looks backward from 1 tire to the other.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 09:17 PM   #43
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Found 1 downfall to the PBRs, can't get them in anything less than a 35". If you wanted them and are running 33's, you are SOL.

Edit: the RADIAL version. You can get the Bias in 33's....
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Unread 03-04-2013, 09:31 PM   #44
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Every time I see somebody say "PBR" I think "Pabst Blue Ribbon"...
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