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post #16 of 35 Old 07-28-2013, 10:19 AM
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Is this gonna be a bolt on 4 link kit? I got a 94 yj and would like something along those lines in the rear.

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any other upgrades besides the coil overs? different cage work, bumpers, other fenders?
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Larry mentioned to me you guys were working on a YJ Hi-line DeFender, think those will be replacing the current DeFenders on here?
Yes we'll be working on the DeFender XC's for YJ, using Papa Smurf. I'm not sure when we'll get to that though.

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Looks sweet! Saw and following on fb too! Lotsa coil over haters there though. Lol! It's all good as long as you guys keep the square headlights!
Yeah there's always going to be somebody that complains about anything you do. Oh well you just roll with it.

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well, not hardly...

whilst I love my YJ, my bad back doesn't love leaf springs that much any more! I've been seriously considering trading to something coiloverish that would have a softer ride (coilover LJ ), but if you guys have got something going that won't take a rocket scientist to build and install, and is affordable... then I'm very curious to see the results.
We're not sure yet whether we will be offering the components for sale. But if we did, they wouldn't be that simple of an install--this definitely is not a simple bolt-in. You'll see as the project moves along. Or you can go check out our photos from Daddy Longlegs, which has a similar coilover setup.

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Is this gonna be a bolt on 4 link kit? I got a 94 yj and would like something along those lines in the rear.
It will have a triangulated 4-link rear, but its not a bolt-on. And we're not sure yet whether we will even offer the components for sale. That's why this is in the YJ Tech section not the vendor section. We're not trying to sell it, we just thought some people might find it interesting.

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post #19 of 35 Old 07-29-2013, 09:56 AM
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I dig it, I have been looking at coil over suspensions on YJs for a while to try to decide how I want to build mine, interested to see what you guys come up with!
What type of wheeling are you trying to set the suspenion up for, rock crawling, trail riding...?

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More work on the axle side and frame side link mounts, and steering links...




















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The upper rear link mounts are located on top of the frame rail, right under where the cage B-pillar tube bolts in. During this round of upgrades we're also removing the body lift Papa Smurf had, so this created a problem at this spot. No worries, just cut a hole in the floor to clear for the link mount, then fabricate a raised foot plate for the cage pillar out of 3/16" plate....




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Also while we were at it we fabricated some heavy duty body mount perches, as the stock ones were pretty beat. These may become a production item. We designed them primarily for the TJ, since it will be a bigger market, but they worked on the YJ with a little extra tuning.







And here it is with the suspension links done, sitting on its new set of 40" BFG Krawlers. In this photo its just sitting on stilts where the coilovers should be, as we haven't added the upper coilover mounts/towers yet. We'll get to that soon.


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post #24 of 35 Old 08-13-2013, 02:42 PM
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It looks great, but I can't say I'm on board with the upper link mounts. I'd personally rather not have to disassemble my suspension when I need to service the diff for whatever reason. Doesn't currie offer a bridge that can be mounted over the rockjock center? Those axles look sick btw. Any estimate on what I would cost to duplicate those for a customer?
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It looks great, but I can't say I'm on board with the upper link mounts. I'd personally rather not have to disassemble my suspension when I need to service the diff for whatever reason. Doesn't currie offer a bridge that can be mounted over the rockjock center? Those axles look sick btw. Any estimate on what I would cost to duplicate those for a customer?
To each his own, I suppose. We've built several rigs now with the upper link mounts attached to the Rock Jock diff cover and it hasn't really been that much of a nuisance. Its just a matter of a couple of jackstands and two heim joint bolts, if you need to get the cover off (in addition to the diff cover bolts you'd have to undo anyhow). And if you're running heims, those should be inspected regularly anyhow.

I can't really comment on the cost. These builds aren't really a normal part of our business so we don't have an a la carte menu of prices for doing this stuff. We do a lot of this type of work but its usually for our own rigs, or show rigs, basically for promotional use. So retail pricing usually isn't figured in.

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Looks solid so far, those welds are insane!

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Time to update this thread! More photos from the conversion. Not exactly in order LOL...




















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