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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:29 PM   #1
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Painting soon! Couple questions.!

Posted a thread a few weeks ago about painting my jeep, and wasnt sure if i wanted to keep the diamond plate or not. But i am now thinking of keeping it, but making it black instead. Thoughts or ideas greatly appreciated. Ill be stripping for paint by possibly this weekend. Want to paint it by the last weekend of july (in 2 weeks)

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Unread 07-16-2013, 11:35 PM   #2
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Forgot the pics, sorry.

Its on the fenders, rockers, corners, and the tailgate. Im repainting it black, and thought about doing the diamond plate black also.
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I have been recently turned on to powdercoating. Is that an option for the diamond plate?
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I have been recently turned on to powdercoating. Is that an option for the diamond plate?
I considered it but wasnt sure how well itll hold up on trails
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initially, a quality powder coat will be more chip/scratch resistant than a quality paint... problem is, when it DOES chip/scratch, it's a whole ton harder to touch up (properly) than paint is

that diamond plate is Aluminum.... whatever top coat you have done, make sure a good etching primer/sealer is used to prevent oxidation of the alum, and peeling/flaking of the paint
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Meh. I did an entire diatribe on this and went into Photobucket to grab a pic, I come back to this screen and its gone.

Yes, powder is substantially more durable.
Yes, powder loves to be on aluminum.
Yes, aluminum is tough to keep paint on for the reasons mentioned above.
Yes, if you do damage the PC finish you will likely live with it or squirt it with the closest paint finish.

PC after dealing with flaky paint on old aluminum corners...

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I considered it but wasnt sure how well itll hold up on trails
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I hate the diamond plate looks way to 90's for me. But that's just me. Looks better in black.
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Well, with that being said, ive narrowed it down to either powdercoating or removing. What do you guys think would be best??
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Well, with that being said, ive narrowed it down to either powdercoating or removing. What do you guys think would be best??
Before you rule out painting it....

Powdercoating vs paint... BOTH are going to get chipped eventually. It's just a matter of time. Does it really matter which goes first? I think ease of maintenance rules out over durability. PC is hard to "patch up" when it does get damaged. Paint is easy to fix.

I had an ORFab swing out tire carrier that I bought used. The PC was all mangled up and rust was working its way in even under the PC. I thought the same of whether to re-PC or strip and paint it. I opted to paint it. Reason being that I could touch it up really quick and cheap when it got damaged and it would be cheaper in the long run. Well I stripped it down to bare metal and bought a good etching primer and 4 cans of Rustoleum Hammered Black. Primer went on and gave it a full 2 days to dry. Then I applied 3 coats of the Rustoleum. On the 4th coat I sprayed heavy and then used an old sponge to dab at it when it got tacky. It gave it an awesome textured finish. Finally I sprayed 2 coats of matte clear on it and it looked freaking sweet. When I sold it 2 years later, the guy asked me if it had even been used b/c it still looked new. BTW, I only used 1 can of primer, 2 cans of black and 1 can of clear when all was said and done... <$30.

If it were me, I'd keep the plate and maybe spray it with a dark gun-metal gray. That way it doesn't look like you just painted over it while it was on the Jeep and the different tone will set off the black paint nicely. Great thing is that you can choose whatever color you want and it's very easy to touch up when needed.

Shoot, I spraybombed my entire Jeep and it's held up great over the last couple years.
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Before you rule out painting it....

Powdercoating vs paint... BOTH are going to get chipped eventually. It's just a matter of time. Does it really matter which goes first? I think ease of maintenance rules out over durability. PC is hard to "patch up" when it does get damaged. Paint is easy to fix.

I had an ORFab swing out tire carrier that I bought used. The PC was all mangled up and rust was working its way in even under the PC. I thought the same of whether to re-PC or strip and paint it. I opted to paint it. Reason being that I could touch it up really quick and cheap when it got damaged and it would be cheaper in the long run. Well I stripped it down to bare metal and bought a good etching primer and 4 cans of Rustoleum Hammered Black. Primer went on and gave it a full 2 days to dry. Then I applied 3 coats of the Rustoleum. On the 4th coat I sprayed heavy and then used an old sponge to dab at it when it got tacky. It gave it an awesome textured finish. Finally I sprayed 2 coats of matte clear on it and it looked freaking sweet. When I sold it 2 years later, the guy asked me if it had even been used b/c it still looked new. BTW, I only used 1 can of primer, 2 cans of black and 1 can of clear when all was said and done... <$30.

If it were me, I'd keep the plate and maybe spray it with a dark gun-metal gray. That way it doesn't look like you just painted over it while it was on the Jeep and the different tone will set off the black paint nicely. Great thing is that you can choose whatever color you want and it's very easy to touch up when needed.

Shoot, I spraybombed my entire Jeep and it's held up great over the last couple years.
Ill try it! Thanks man
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Unread 07-18-2013, 10:54 AM   #14
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Good lookin jeep btw. I really like the camo
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Unread 07-19-2013, 12:49 PM   #15
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