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Unread 04-07-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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painting my yj

Since its getting warmer, and i have a bit of surface rust from the stupid brine they started using here in pa this past winter, im thinking about repainting my jeep. I dont know if you can tell from my profile pic, but theres no clear coat. It was just primer with a tan paint. this wont make it difficult to repaint, but I also dont want the same thing to happen again next winter. I was thinking about going flat black, but i kinda like the way it looks with the tan paint. downsides, i took it to the car wash and lots of paint came off, and of the course the resting, but it is just surface, so no body work. so without rhino/hercu lining the tub, or spending a fortune in a new paint job, what can i do myself to make the paint job look good, and be tough? i can deal with a few hundred bucks in paint. but any suggestions? I am going to wait till next month, when I am sure the whether will be good, as i dont have a garage, and or paint shop. just let me know what you think i should do. Thanks!

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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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I think that you have a good idea, but keep in mind that you are really going to get what you pay for. If you do something like rattle-can it, for example, you won't have UV protection and the paint won't last very long, or protect well from rust, essentially wasting your money. Also, a decent basecoat/ clearcoat job wil cost more than you are wanting to spend, but it will offer the protection that you need. If I were you I would either bump up the budget a little, or maybe even consider a single stage paint job, which will be cheaper than BC/CC, but will give you pretty much all of the benefits. Just my 2 cents.
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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:43 PM   #3
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have you given any thought about using Monstaliner bedliner? It's available in something like 40 different colors now!


http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f43/i...-liner-875162/

go here to see the color chart
http://www.monstaliner.com/forms/monstaliner_colors.htm
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Unread 04-07-2013, 09:46 PM   #4
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a gallon of Rust-Oleum in your favorite (available) color... a gallon of acetone... a 4" mini roller frame with a pack or two of the dense foam rollers... and a variety of grits wet/dry sandpaper. for about $50 and some time & elbow grease, you'll have a finish that can look really good, will greatly outlast any rattle-can finish, and super cheap to touch up if you need.

do some google image searching for roller paint car or similar... some incredible results are possible
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Unread 04-07-2013, 10:07 PM   #5
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a gallon of Rust-Oleum in your favorite (available) color... a gallon of acetone... a 4" mini roller frame with a pack or two of the dense foam rollers... and a variety of grits wet/dry sandpaper. for about $50 and some time & elbow grease, you'll have a finish that can look really good, will greatly outlast any rattle-can finish, and super cheap to touch up if you need.

do some google image searching for roller paint car or similar... some incredible results are possible
that's pretty much how I did mine...but if I had to do over, I think I would go Monsta now because of some of the newer colors


Rustoleum Safety Orange rolled over Duplicolor spray on bedliner
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Unread 04-07-2013, 10:29 PM   #6
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I would've loved to do Monster in Suicide Blonde, but the majority of my current Jeep budget is being used gathering the final items for my upcoming swap.... and ~$50 for Rust-Oleum Safety Yellow, acetone, etc beat the $300+ it would've cost me to do the Monsta.

maybe a few years down the road I might

I just re-read the OP... he did mention not wanting to do Rhino/Herculiner... I assumed he'd consider Monsta along those same lines.
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Unread 04-08-2013, 06:56 AM   #7
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I just re-read the OP... he did mention not wanting to do Rhino/Herculiner... I assumed he'd consider Monsta along those same lines.
I saw that too, but mentioned Monsta only because it's a tough, do it yourself coating that is available in many colors and has a decent texture for the interior/exterior surfaces of a Jeep. Unlike the Herc that is only available in a few basic colors and has a much coarser texture to it.

Or the Rhino which has to be applied professionally, and is a totally different type of product that costs some big $$, but it is superior to any D.I.Y. type stuff in the toughness/thickness categories as long as the guys doing the surface prep know what they are doing.


Like I said earlier I would have gone Monsta on mine, but when I started they didn't offer some of the more vibrant colors that they have now.

I really like the colors like Predator


and Apocalypse
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Unread 04-08-2013, 09:35 AM   #8
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I painted mine with Rustoleum/Acetone mix and a cheap Harbor Freight HPLV gun. Worked great- if you have access to a big compressor I would go that route rather than all the elbow grease of the roll-on rustoleum.

:-)

I will be doing mine again this spring- I did a rush job and just scuffed and shot mine and I have some rust coming back through. This time I am going to kill all the rust first them paint.
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Unread 04-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #9
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Rustoleum and Mineral Spirits rolled on with a 4" foam roller (lots of coats). If this method interests you at all, Google "$50 paint job". You'll find more information than you want. It's labor intensive, but it works very well. I did the headlight bucket on my motorcycle using this method (as a test before I did it to my Jeep). It's been on there for three or four years. I've sprayed it directly at the car wash on a very regular basis and there are no issues with it that I've found.

The first pic is when I started dissassembling after mock-up and body work. I've included this to give you an idea of how well it covers (I didn't prime it, I started rolling in the condition you see in the first pic). The second is a decent picture from yesterday afternoon during assembly (the nasty stuff on the side plate of my tube fender is just buffing compound, I hadn't cleaned it when I took the pic). The third is how it's sitting in the shop now, but the picture quality is poor (dark out + cell phone pic = crap picture). Once I get my rock sliders back on, I'll be in business.

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I don't know a cheaper way to get a decent paint job than this. If you go this route, I suggest picking a color that's available in both cans and rattle cans.

Regardless of what you do, you're going to have to prep adequately (removing grease/wax and scuffing well enough for the paint to stick). If you don't do this, it doesn't matter how much you spend on paint, it won't last.
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Unread 04-08-2013, 10:38 AM   #10
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thanks for all the info. im going to look at the monsta liner and and the roll on method. thanks a lot. ill keep you guys posted on what i find.
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