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Unread 08-31-2014, 05:03 AM   #1
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old leafs

so my leafs are still the originals from 95 and while they aren't flat yet they surely are not far from it. i want to spruce up my suspension but do NOT want to lift it. it seams like every lift out there, even a 1.5-2.5" lift always yields like 4.5" my dad has had a knee replacement and has trouble getting into it as it sits now but he rides with me during hunting season so i don't want it to high for him to get in. any ideas? i don't think changing shocks will help out my ride any with worn out leafs (they too are original)

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Unread 08-31-2014, 06:18 AM   #2
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They sale stock height springs too... So not sure why you looking at lifts when you dont want a lift....
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Unread 08-31-2014, 06:20 AM   #3
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I think what you need is a "bastard pack" lift. Meaning, you go to the junkyard and buy a pair of leaf springs. Usually from a small truck or SUV that has the same 2.5" wide leaves that we do on our YJ's. I would look for a pack that has multiple leaves, so you have more to choose from.

Then you take out a leaf from your junkyard pack, and replace a leaf or two in your YJ pack. Results may vary! But you can tailor your lift to what you want, and for relatively cheap. This is labor intensive though... and if you paid someone to do this the labor may exceed the cost of new springs depending on how much trial and error there is to reach your desired goal. Most people seem to use the longest springs and net about 3", but you could try the shorter springs and see if you get less lift. There are some spring charts on the web showing spring lengths and load capacity that may help guide you.

I am about to bastard pack my YJ, and picked up a set of leaves from an Explorer sport trac for $40. I hope to document my swap here when I do it, as most write ups involve S-10 leaves. I am shooting for 1.5-2" of lift. So I will be using the shorter springs from my donor packs.

There are threads here in this forum about bastard packs, just search and you will find them.

Another alternative is to have your leaves "re-arched". Most spring shops can do this, although I have heard mixed reviews about how long they last. I have no idea what the cost to re-arch is.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 06:24 AM   #4
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Stock springs are as expensive as lift kits. Atleast on quadratec they are. So that kind of worried me.

As far as bastard packs I was just looking into that but definitely don't wanna rearch. Seems that costs more than new springs. Atleast around here. Damn I wish I didn't have leafs but coils instead
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Unread 08-31-2014, 06:30 AM   #5
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Coils? Yuck

The reason stock springs are similar in cost to lift springs is that both of them are new. They are basically the same cost to make.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 06:35 AM   #6
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This is a very good point lol. Not sure why I didn't make that connection.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 07:30 AM   #7
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You could have the re arched. I'm not sure the cost of that, but I would imagine it's cheaper than brand new springs.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 07:31 AM   #8
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You can go to a truck spring shop and have them re-arched with one to leaf changed for a pre-arched one to hold them. I did this on my CJ7 back in 99 and they have held fine. They did a 2.5" arch on mine, but you can go stock or even 1 or 2" if wanted.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 07:59 AM   #9
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I think you will be surprised at how much the shocks are going to help your ride. I too have original springs and when I put new shocks on I got a little bit of curve back to my springs. I do plan to change them but there were other things I need to do to my Jeep first. It rides better with just new shocks alone. Maybe do like me and do your shocks then save up for new springs.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 08:02 AM   #10
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Thanks for the options fellas. Time to start lookin into re arching and such.
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Unread 08-31-2014, 08:38 AM   #11
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Have you took off the trac bars?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?
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Unread 08-31-2014, 08:46 AM   #12
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Oh yea trac bars been gone
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Unread 08-31-2014, 11:11 AM   #13
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Ok just wanted to make sure! hahaha that could have made a huge change in ride if not! ha
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Unread 08-31-2014, 12:50 PM   #14
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I still have trac bars...
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Unread 08-31-2014, 01:17 PM   #15
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I still have trac bars...
Mine has a 4" lift and also still has track bars. We have safety inspections so have to have all the factory safety features in place. It rides like a Cadillac compared to my CJ7.
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