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Unread 08-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #1
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New slave cyinder to existing hose issues ('91 wrangler)

I'll try to make this brief - bought a new slave & clutch kit from advance auto, did full install but now having a major issue when i try to hook the hose from the master cylinder backup to the new slave cylinder. new slave has a different fitting (quick disconnect) than the old one and no one seems to know why or how to fix it (talked to both AA and the clutch manfacturor).

Other strange thing is all positive reviews for the clutch system on the AA website(?). Here are some pictures of what I'm up against - new slave connection next to existing hose connection and a pic of the old slave for reference. Need help!!

(PS tried to remove fitting from existing hose line, and also removing quick disconnect from new slave - no luck)

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Unread 08-27-2013, 10:12 PM   #2
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You have some issues here. First hate to break it to ya but it won't work.

You either need a different slave or a different master. The two systems are incompatible. It's more work to swap the slave seeing as how you have it all hooked up. Switching the master and line will cost you more ($200+). And may need some modifying.

I suspect either the system was swapped previously, someone mixed up the part numbers, or yours was made in a slave cylinder transitional time. (flare to quick disconnect)

If it makes you feel better I can pull the tranny and swap the slave in an hour MAYBE two with no special tools. Shows how many times I've done it. Lol

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Unread 08-28-2013, 06:51 AM   #3
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If you can wait a couple of weeks I think I can help. I have a 93 and replaced the slave and clutch a month ago. I also replaced the master and the line with the Advanced Adapters stainless line. I cannot get a good connection to the slave b/c the AA line will not connect directly to the 93 slave (I've connected with a compression fitting). It will bolt directly to your slave. I have ordered all parts to go to an external slave and will be making the swap in a couple of weeks. You can have the line and master - both new and as mentioned above cost about $200. Won't be doing me any good once I make the swap. Let me know.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 02:29 PM   #4
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I don't see a problem here?
The first pic is of the new slave line fittings and the existing master hose?
The second pic is of the old cylinder?
Remove the black fitting off the other line on the new slave (not the bleeder line)
Thread that line hose fitting into the master hose fitting and tighen
You removed the original slave line from it - remove that black fitting and hook it up
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Unread 08-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #5
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I don't see a problem here?
The first pic is of the new slave line fittings and the existing master hose?
The second pic is of the old cylinder?
Remove the black fitting off the other line on the new slave (not the bleeder line)
Thread that line hose fitting into the master hose fitting and tighen
You removed the original slave line from it - remove that black fitting and hook it up
Couldn't he cut the new inlet line , remove the threaded nut off the old line, place the threaded nut on the new cut line, flair the new inlet line using a brake line tool, and be done with it?
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Unread 08-28-2013, 04:59 PM   #6
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Post is eerily similar to http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/i...onnect-756337/

You can find a brake line flair kit on the cheap through ebay http://compare.ebay.com/like/3708177...Types&var=sbar

or rent/borrow one from Autozone-Napa-etc.
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The quick disconnect line is not the "standard brake line mild steel" that you can mess around with. It's a plastic concoction of some sort. To me they looked incompatible with each other when I swapped mine.

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The quick disconnect line is not the "standard brake line mild steel" that you can mess around with. It's a plastic concoction of some sort. To me they looked incompatible with each other when I swapped mine.

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if thats the case, he'll have to remove the new unit and go get one that fits..
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Couldn't he cut the new inlet line , remove the threaded nut off the old line, place the threaded nut on the new cut line, flair the new inlet line using a brake line tool, and be done with it?
Not even that difficult - nothing needs to be cut
The black plastic fitting on the new slave can be removed with 2 wrenches
Once that's off, the flared line fitting (on the new slave line) will thread into the existing supply hose and seal tight
I've had to do this a number of times now
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Good info. Didn't know you could do that. Could have saved me a trip the the yard when I did mine.
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Not even that difficult - nothing needs to be cut
The black plastic fitting on the new slave can be removed with 2 wrenches
Once that's off, the flared line fitting (on the new slave line) will thread into the existing supply hose and seal tight
I've had to do this a number of times now

Thanks for the reply, my approach is exactly what you describe. But would love to know how you managed getting the quick disconnect off the new slave. Have tried everything, line wrenches, etc. Its on so tight that I'm starting to bend the line with so much pressure and it still won't budge. Have had 2 other quality mechanics take a shot and no luck.

I'm afriad I'll break the new slave line and have to start over. Jobs already done except for that connection.

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PB Blaster - flare wrench for the line nut - the correct size open end combination wrench across the flats on the metal part of the black fitting
One time when I had to remove one I used a pair of giant channel locks and and extra set of hands
You might could try a small pipe wrench to hold the fitting but I'm not sure how well it would work

That black fitting is supposed to come off
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