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post #16 of 21 Old 03-13-2014, 11:06 AM
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But LOL at the "knows a lot about leaf suspension" and "double shackle" in the same sentence
This isnt a new technique. They do shackles at both ends and links. The spring at that point is only supplying elevation and the links do the locating of the axle.


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I don't know why you would want to modify your frame mounts. It'll then be screwed up for any off the shelf springs. Your problem is with those mystery springs. I suggest you leave the frame alone and pick up some quality springs from a respected manufacturer. In fact, I insist you do that!
He has off-the-self springs. Every lift kit spring, particularly in the 4" range, is too short. Have yet to see one fit a YJ properly and they all suffer from the vertical shackle syndrome.


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This isnt a new technique. They do shackles at both ends and links. The spring at that point is only supplying elevation and the links do the locating of the axle.
I got the imression he was talking about this setup


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He has off-the-self springs. Every lift kit spring, particularly in the 4" range, is too short. Have yet to see one fit a YJ properly and they all suffer from the vertical shackle syndrome.
So all the engineered kits are wrong, and a few JF guys are right?

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I got the imression he was talking about this setup
I was. I knew it wasn't "new" technique, but had never seen it before. Moving the mount points won't inhibit the ability to mount "off the shelf" items, unless I did a shackle reversal with stock springs. That's how I see it, anyway.
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So all the engineered kits are wrong, and a few JF guys are right?

Got it.
No its an economics thing. They take the same springs and put a larger arch in them. This makes them shorter from eye to eye. There are some companies that dont even make a spring larger then 2.5." No matter how it happens a shackle that is completely or near vertical is wrong.

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Well, I finally made time to take a pic of the new front shackle(s) position. Mount points moved back approx. 3/4˝.
Also, when the springs were taken off, there were signs of wear in several spots across the #2 leaf, so the shop added pads to each end.
Jeep rides "softer" now and has less bump steer symptoms. For now, this will do for me. incidentally, I finally scored a decent set of stock YJ springs, for an SOA conversion in the future. I don't know if this will require moving the mount points back to "home", but I'm okay with that. SOA isn't in immediate future plans.
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