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Unread 08-28-2013, 07:00 AM   #1
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Mudding axles on a YJ

Just got my 1993 YJ and I need some suggestions for a mudding axle! If you're gonna say don't mud and rock crawl... Don't bother! I'm in Memphis (city know for it's amazing parks)... Not... I'm a mudder!

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Unread 08-28-2013, 07:06 AM   #2
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You got choices. Dana 44s from a waggy. You can go Dana 60s for some serious muffing and rock crawling.

Most go mild beef and lock the Dana 30 and out in a Ford 8.8.

Tons if options most depend on budget and install skills. There is a ton of threads on all

Check out the tech pages for builds some great stuff there.

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Unread 08-28-2013, 07:28 AM   #3
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I have a way to get the 44 but what kind of install mods are required! I can weld but leaves much to be desired?
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First you need to ask yourself what kind of tires you're planning on running.

Do you want to run 35s and mud but still be able to street the jeep, ordo you want to run 53" tractor tires like the mud buggies. That will help you figure out what axle you want to go with.

35s= D44s, 8.8,
53s= nothing short of a 1 ton axle. IE: D60



Edit: I don't mud, but I spent enough time in Florida to learn at least this much.
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That definitely helped alot! I need it to be street legal! What kind of front-rear axle combo could you run with a 44 rear?
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Pick a tire size first. Then axles. Then lift.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 01:54 PM   #7
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Well I'm probably gonna do an SOA in the rear but would the Dana 44 be to much for stock leafs? Woul the leafs warp?
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Unread 08-28-2013, 02:35 PM   #9
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Well I'm probably gonna do an SOA in the rear but would the Dana 44 be to much for stock leafs? Woul the leafs warp?
the axles are unsprung weight.. they wont cause your springs to warp. IF your looking to do a spring over keep in mind you have to figure out what your going to do for high steer. Most people see SOA as a cheap and easy 6" of lift but in fact it normally ends up being a nightmare for steering.

Waggy axles will be be 6 bolt so you will need either new rims if you go 44's all around or convert the front to a 5x4.5 bolt pattern. $$$

Also with SOA your going to need to build anti wrap bars for the rear.

Like many of folks here have said the right way to figure out what tpye of axles to use is pick a tire size, then axle then lift.

Im gonna be running a 8.8 rear with a dana 30 front converted over to TJ long shaft. The front will break before the rear.

You say you want to mud it then drive it on the street. What size tires you run will dictate what gear ratio you need and how strong an axle you want.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 04:58 PM   #10
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What you want to do is concentrate on removing drag. Basically when in the mud you are plowing your way through. Those that push more have a harder time until they loose momentum and stop. You want to eliminate all the things that will grab and hold on to the mud. The portals will get the axle tubing up higher. The link suspension will not have the leaves out front to push through. The ORIs will have a narrower profile then coils. The links can be bent up and not drag so deep. Figure out whats going to catch the mud and rework it.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 01:47 PM   #11
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If you're planning on running the Cov. Pike bottoms, I hear those mudholes are DEEP.
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I can weld but leaves much to be desired?
My suggestion, Buy a rig ready to go... What you are about to attempt is going to require welding and fab work to get things right.
Forget any axle mod or any mod till you know what size tires you gonna run.
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I have a feeling this isn't going to turn out well.
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I'm not running the bottoms! I'm running my farm in millington don't worry about me!
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