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post #1 of 15 Old 02-01-2013, 08:31 AM Thread Starter
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motor swap wireing need help

k i got a 89 yj had a 2.5 got a 4.0l and put it in got new wireing harness got it all in but the jeep with not turn over with the key but i can get it to start by crossing the solinoyid really dont know what else to do been working on this slowly for a wile now hope you guys can help.


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post #2 of 15 Old 02-01-2013, 08:59 AM
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Did you rewire the bulkhead? The harness from the inside to the outside is not a 1 for 1. The bulhead wires need to be changed. Also you don't need to go down to the starter solinoid to turn it over. You can jumper poer inside the pdc at the relay from pin 30 to 87.
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post #3 of 15 Old 02-01-2013, 12:37 PM Thread Starter
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so should i just spend the money on an under dash wireing harness or is there anyway i can get it to work
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post #4 of 15 Old 02-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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Yes or yes. Yes you can make it work. You need to go through the bulkhead connector. I think 6 wires or buy one. But either way the bulkhead is your problem.
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post #5 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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dose anyone have a wireing diagram? cant seem to find the right one for my year jeep its a 91 4.0 motor and harness going into an 89 yj sahara that had a 2.5
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Will it run but not start off the key? Sounds like you only have one wire to worry about I had a similar problem when I did my swap using a 93 motor and interior harness. My problem was the wire coming from the key to the starter relay was in two different spots on my harnesses
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post #7 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 11:27 AM
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/4...r-wiring-list-
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/9...dvice-1118478/
You need to swap some wires to make it work at the bulkhead and add a few. Here is the bulkhead pin out.
Google the forum for images and info:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/f...oogle-1003734/
Also search for 5 to fire.
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91 bulkhead connector Engine compartment.jpg   91 bulkhead connector Firewall.jpg   8889yjbulkhead.jpg  
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post #8 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 11:32 AM
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Link for the 90 FSM with all the wiring schematics:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40590346/199...e%20Manual.pdf
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post #9 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 11:41 AM
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Will it run but not start off the key? Sounds like you only have one wire to worry about I had a similar problem when I did my swap using a 93 motor and interior harness. My problem was the wire coming from the key to the starter relay was in two different spots on my harnesses
While I understand your reasoning. I disagree. I can run my engine without an O2 sensor but it will run crappy. There is probably more than one wire off and some missing as he is going from TBI to MPFI.

To the OP Que will get you straight just listen to him. He is a genus when it comes to this stuff.

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post #10 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 11:51 AM
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I will follow you on this post and let the old post you raised from the dead go. The bulkhead wiring should be essentially the same on the engine side. Move the wires on the pinouts to match it and you should be good to go.
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While I understand your reasoning. I disagree. I can run my engine without an O2 sensor but it will run crappy. There is probably more than one wire off and some missing as he is going from TBI to MPFI.

To the OP Que will get you straight just listen to him. He is a genus when it comes to this stuff.
I'm sorry. I was trying to give a little help on what I had ran into in my swap. My 4.0 would run but wouldn't start off of the key because the interior wiring harness was sending the yellow starter wire through the fuse block bulkhead and on the engine side harness the wire was located In the 10 pin wiring harness that goes through the firewall behind the radio.
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I'm sorry. I was trying to give a little help on what I had ran into in my swap. My 4.0 would run but wouldn't start off of the key because the interior wiring harness was sending the yellow starter wire through the fuse block bulkhead and on the engine side harness the wire was located In the 10 pin wiring harness that goes through the firewall behind the radio.
NO need to apoligize. I wasnt jumping your chit. I just gave my reasoning and explanation for my reasoning. You were going MPFI to MPFI so yours should have been pretty close though IIRC 91 is a weird one of a kind year for the YJ.

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post #13 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM
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It's all good Jhartley. There isn't anything to apologize about. 93-95 had that connector. 91 and 92 are different. I am sure he missed G5. You are close!
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post #14 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 07:36 PM
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It's ok I have a 91 interior wiring harness that I bought extra it has a 10 pin connector that goes through the center of the fire wall I didn't use because I had a 93 engine harness and didn't want to go through the trouble of splicing wires. Both the 93 and the 91 interior harnesses sent the starter wire through g5. For some reason the engine harness I had sent the starter wire through the middle fire wall bulk head connector
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post #15 of 15 Old 02-25-2013, 07:39 PM
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91 with the 10 pin? You can see the starter feed on the bulkhead? Of am confused.
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