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post #91 of 185 Old 01-20-2013, 10:52 AM
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post #92 of 185 Old 01-20-2013, 11:04 AM
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If you have pulled the rear case housing, and you have both snap rings off the engine side of the front case, you should be able to tap the front case off. The manual describes using a rubber/soft mallet. Are you following the manual in this job?

Edit, can also try standing the tranny vertical, support under the intermediate plate with wood blocks, etc. This will help eliminate any binding between the bearings on the input shaft and front of the cluster, then tap/wiggle the front case upwards.

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Alright, I try the wood block idea and see how it goes thanks.
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Anyone know where I can buy a new pivot rod? Had a hell of a time getting it out due to the previous person to work on this transmission galling it up bad with what looks like a cold chisel. Talked to SW Gear, they don't have one. Quadratec doesn't have them on their website.

and before anyone says it, the local shops are going to be on my call list next.

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Anyone know where I can buy a new pivot rod? Had a hell of a time getting it out due to the previous person to work on this transmission galling it up bad with what looks like a cold chisel. Talked to SW Gear, they don't have one. Quadratec doesn't have them on their website.

and before anyone says it, the local shops are going to be on my call list next.
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Got a picture of the part you need? I have a ton of transmission parts.

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I have a rebuild kit coming, as the guy I bought it from didn't know when it was rebuilt last. Here are a few photos showing the condition of the internals:




A little concerned about the marks on the gears in the first picture, but there aren't any corresponding marks on the mated gears on the cluster shaft.

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The pivot shaft isn't a particularly close tolerance part. I would smooth out any imperfections on the shaft with emery paper & let it go. Cleaning/smoothing the bore it rides in will help too. Bear in mind that it can be installed backwards, upside down, or both. The hole in the end of the shaft faces the transfer case, and the threaded hole in the shaft needs the deepest countersunk side facing up. But I will check to see if I have one.

The gears are in excellent shape, and the small "cuts" are normally found in all of them. You're fine.

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I'm using your thread as my blueprint for doing this rebuild, so I'm not too concerned about installing the pivot shaft wrong. Will hit just about everything I can with emery prior to reassembly.

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The gears are in excellent shape, and the small "cuts" are normally found in all of them. You're fine.
Good to know. This is the first time diving into a transmission, but not the first time rebuilding mechanical systems. Things I'm used to rebuilding any defect in the gears themselves meant replacement.

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I have no doubt that you'll do an excellent job on the rebuild. Let me know if I can help in any way.

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I have a 93 YJ with about 230,000 miles. Shifting grinding and basic weird noises led me to pull it for a rebuild. Bought a full rebuild kit and took my AX15 apart. Found several bits of synchronizer keys and a sheetmetal screw (yeah, go figure) lodged in the plastic "funnel" in the rear case half. It appears that because of this the fifth gear bearing didn't get lubed enough and roached the bearing, cluster gear shaft where the fifth gear counter rides and the fifth gear counter itself. My research has found a wide varying prices on cluster gears on the web. Are there any vendors to stay away from? Most priced out from $280 from Quadratec down to about $180 from places like Southwest Gear. There was one place, Allstate Gear, that was much cheaper than the others ~$118 but doesn't show any pictures. I worry about getting the wrong one since I have read that there were two different "versions" of the cluster gear (not counting the fifth gear nut retained version). Also it seems like most places sell the fifth gear counter in an "update kit" that includes the synchro and keys (which I already have in the rebuild kit). Any idea what the differences were in the two counter gear versions and should I concentrate on getting the update kit versus just the counter gear alone to make sure all parts "in sync" (yeah, bad pun).

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Personally, I use Southwest Gear for most everything. I've actually purchased 4 or 5 rebuild kits & various replacement parts this week from Nanci at Southwest.

I'm only aware of the clip/nut differences, otherwise I was under the impression that they're all the same. Another version would be news to me.

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Southwest Gear is who I just purchased my rebuild kit from, they were great people to deal with. You should give them a call and pick the guys (Bob I think his name was) brain, he is a wealth of information.

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Quick question...
If I get the tranny apart and can't seem to get it back together...What would the charge be to put it back together (supposing I can get it to your shop)...Guess I just need some confidence...I'm very mechanically inclined and work on air compressors in plants and factories (for the last 13 years or so). Rode Submarines (auxilliaryman) for 12 years before that...But I have never been into a tranny before...

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Quick question...
If I get the tranny apart and can't seem to get it back together...What would the charge be to put it back together (supposing I can get it to your shop)...Guess I just need some confidence...I'm very mechanically inclined and work on air compressors in plants and factories (for the last 13 years or so). Rode Submarines (auxilliaryman) for 12 years before that...But I have never been into a tranny before...
Dude, jump into it and don't look back! This was my very first transmission to rebuild as well and I followed this write-up. It is to the "T!" The only suggestion I can give you is to take your time and watch the small details. Don't be worried, but be mindful.

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Dude, jump into it and don't look back! This was my very first transmission to rebuild as well and I followed this write-up. It is to the "T!" The only suggestion I can give you is to take your time and watch the small details. Don't be worried, but be mindful.
Yup, just get on it.

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