[Lee3333]

Originally Posted by Jeepfreak81

Not to mention you can buy a family car off the lot now for under 25k that will run low 13's or better in the quarter with a 5.7-6.3 sec 0-60 time. To get that in a Jeep your going to have 8-10k into the motor alone I bet.

The new Cobalt SS and HHR SS both would do that.... and I am sure there are Camry's and Hondas that do as well...

Funny yuou should mention those cars. I have an 06 HHR with several engine mods (as well as exterior, wheels, interior, suspension, sound system, etc). According to my G-Tech, it should be well into the 15's-not quite as quick as the high 14 SS, but not far off. But it is my DD, family car.



I am not looking for something just fast. Anybody can buy a fast car from the dealer. I am looking for something fun to build, fun to drive, that turns heads. Sure, I want it to be fast. As long as it hooks up reasonably well, 450HP in a 2500 pound vehicle should pull 11's. An American muscle car would be easy to build, but what is the challange. I want something UNIQUE.

[Mr. Corrosion]

Just had to post this. Carry on.

[kenny kustom]

So, thats what a renegade is for !!

[Barrio]

this thread make me cry


it ranks up there with "burning out in my YJ" and "Flames out the exsust" threads

[Jeepfreak81]

Originally Posted by Lee3333

While the back is certainly lighter than the front, it is NO DIFFERENT than any other American car. And while the wheel base is short, others have told me it is not a problem. Remember, altereds and T-Buckets also had short wheelbases and used to drag race all the time without incidents. Plus, I can always increase the wb-kits are available to move the front foward and the rear back, should I want to.

It certainly IS different. Even most T buckets had longer then a 93" WB (maybe not by much), different ratio steering boxes (more street friendly) I also bet if you were to research a lot of those t-buckets had SBC's but they were SBC's from the 50's and 60's, many of which were sub 300HP. Many had flathead V8's and some even used 225 or 231 V6 engines. They also were not on the tire technology we have now, most had nylon tires back then. If you see a modern t-bucket being raced it likely has some sort of linked suspension out back. A t-bucket is not NEAR as tall as a jeep -- even after the jeep has been lowered. You would have to chop and channel the jeep to do it proper for the right handling.

I have had guys with mudtrucks tell me 10" lift blocks front and rear with a Z-link draglink is fine too... doesn't mean I believe them. When building a purpose vehicle it is VERY important to consider EVERY angle of the handling. Popping out a few leafs to lower a Jeep, adding a big V8 and traction bar just won't cut it and be safe IMO.

I am not saying don't do it, I am saying if you do it, do it start to finish. I have driven a 300hp Yj with gears and smaller tires. It CAN get away from you easily.

THIS is a great example of a jeep street rod - I have a picture of a real one, but can't find it, must be on my home computer. ANd FWIW this thing would be worthless in a straight line with the ~80-85" WB



typical t-bucket

[95yjbrowny]

I have to chime and say that WWII jeep there has to be the ugliest f!@#$$g thing that I have ever seen in my entire life, that could be because I appreciate orginality seeing that I myself and my father restored a 42 GPW and if it looked anything like that I would have never put any time into it. That thing needs to go to the crusher for scrap.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[The Rat]

Originally Posted by Lee3333

I'm sorry...your idea, much like your HHR, is a travesty. Just remember to have a friend in the crowd with a video camera and a youtube account so we have something to remember you by.

[Jeepfreak81]

Originally Posted by 95yjbrowny

I have to chime and say that WWII jeep there has to be the ugliest f!@#$$g thing that I have ever seen in my entire life, that could be because I appreciate orginality seeing that I myself and my father restored a 42 GPW and if it looked anything like that I would have never put any time into it. That thing needs to go to the crusher for scrap.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

This would be worse... and more like what he is going for. Subframed with IFS/IRS, 2wd Only way he is going to get it low enough to handle properly on the street. Though this guy has his bags or whatever lowered. (hence the camber)

[giggityjeeper]

Originally Posted by Jeepfreak81

The new Cobalt SS and HHR SS both would do that.... and I am sure there are Camry's and Hondas that do as well...

MMMmmMMMMmmMMMmMMMmm........3 on the way....265 turboed ponies, in a car that weighs 2200 lbs......


WE did a supercharged 2007 here with a stage 3 kit, put it just over 300, and WOW.........almost got it under 12 in the quater.....little better in a limited slip diff one......but man the juice is awsome..just goes and screams to go more

I think one of these little twirp cars would have roasted my S/C Cobra

And like the last guy put, if your gonna do this an IFS and IRS would work better for ya, for handling and lowering....

each to their own, but I would spend a grnd on the jeepo make a wheeler, and take the 10G your thining of spending and buy a used racer like these guys said.

[giggityjeeper]

Originally Posted by Lee3333

Funny yuou should mention those cars. I have an 06 HHR with several engine mods (as well as exterior, wheels, interior, suspension, sound system, etc). According to my G-Tech, it should be well into the 15's-not quite as quick as the high 14 SS, but not far off. But it is my DD, family car.


I am not looking for something just fast. Anybody can buy a fast car from the dealer. I am looking for something fun to build, fun to drive, that turns heads. Sure, I want it to be fast. As long as it hooks up reasonably well, 450HP in a 2500 pound vehicle should pull 11's. An American muscle car would be easy to build, but what is the challange. I want something UNIQUE.

want something fun, buy a 2.0 S/C cobalt the supercharged ones......my customer in Vancouver, has his to just over 900 HP with BOLT ON over the counter GM parts. runs in the low 9 and kills.

and loose the flames on the HHR.....youve gone to far now. lol

[giggityjeeper]

Originally Posted by 95yjbrowny

I have to chime and say that WWII jeep there has to be the ugliest f!@#$$g thing that I have ever seen in my entire life, that could be because I appreciate orginality seeing that I myself and my father restored a 42 GPW and if it looked anything like that I would have never put any time into it. That thing needs to go to the crusher for scrap.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

REALLY, looks like a nice rat rod to me....different strokes I guess.

[95yjbrowny]

I guess, thats no rat rod. Jeeps were never intended to be like this! Must be the canuck in ol' giggity, because my wife is canadian and she thinks that they look cool, but thats besides the point. If Jeeps were ment to be drag cars or rat rods Jeep would have made them that way!

[bradyman1]

Why not just put hydraulics on it and make it hop while you are at it. That would be unique.

[Jkanly]

Hey, I'm all for doing whatever makes you happy and all.. i mean.. if its what you like then go for it! But.. I think i speak for 80% of the people in this forum when i say "its not a jeep thing"

[giggityjeeper]

Originally Posted by 95yjbrowny

I guess, thats no rat rod. Jeeps were never intended to be like this! Must be the canuck in ol' giggity, because my wife is canadian and she thinks that they look cool, but thats besides the point. If Jeeps were ment to be drag cars or rat rods Jeep would have made them that way!

damn canucks hey......thinks anything looks coo.

must be tho another guy here thought it looked cool to