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post #1 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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looking to upgrade my D30 front axle

Hello all,

So i am on here again looking for suggestion on my next upgrade, Replacing the stock front D30 on my YJ.

A little update on the old YJ, crawler

- 93 YJ, 4.0 with a 5 spd manula trans
- 35 inch MTR on 15 inch wheels.
- Tera Low transfere case upgrade
- SLE with CV rear drive line
- Rear dif is a Ford 8.8 rear dif , open with 4.56 gear
- front dif is a D30 with Lockrite locker, 4.56 gears, stock axle shafts.
- SOA set up with 1.5 inch springs
- Home made Cross over / High steer system.
- I drive my Jeep to and from the tral, when off road I run the rocks mostly how ever I do run a little snow from time to time.



I am looking for pros / cons on front axle upgrades such as

- D44, G2
- D44. 78-79 F150
- ??????????


I am also looking to stay with normal YJ width axle as well as 5 lug x 15 inch wheels


any suggestion would be greatly appriciated.

thanks Robert


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post #2 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 08:23 PM
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Are you planning on staying with 35 inch tires?
Personally I would upgrade your front axle shafts. Either Chrom moly or TJ shafts for the larger U joint, and put a rear locker in.

93 YJ SOA 2" springs front, XJ springs rear w/main leaf added, High pinon 9 inch rear detroit locker front Dana 44 ARB 4.56 Gears, 36 inch Irok tires too much to list.
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post #3 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 08:37 PM
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We just got through installing a Currie RockJock front D44 in my friends wifes TJ. This HPD44 is very beefy. He had it built with 5.38 JK gears, locker, etc.

I've been wanting to post pics of it, but I'm waiting to see if his wife updates her build thread first (wouldn't want to steal her thunder ).

Just letting you know of another option out there.
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post #4 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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Great question, eventually I will go to a 37 or possibly 38 inch tire . For now I am planing on keeping the 35 as I recently purchased the 35s .


I have considered the d30 cromoly ( not sure on spelling )axle shaft upgrade. How ever my long term goal is to 3 or 4 link the front with mostl likely King Coil Overs and that would most likely meen , a truss with some expensive brakets including the 37 or inch tires .

This all being said I think it's best to look at a stronger type dif that would also give me greater gear selection options .


Regarding rear locker , I plan to install a Detroit in the 8.8

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post #5 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 09:04 PM
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I'd skip the 44 and go right to a 60 given your plans.
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post #6 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 09:06 PM
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We just got through installing a Currie RockJock front D44 in my friends wifes TJ. This HPD44 is very beefy. He had it built with 5.38 JK gears, locker, etc.

I've been wanting to post pics of it, but I'm waiting to see if his wife updates her build thread first (wouldn't want to steal her thunder ).

Just letting you know of another option out there.
Kat has a new Tiger under the hood ?
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post #7 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 09:27 PM Thread Starter
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My buddy says the same thing , go to the KP D60, I just don't won't to go full width and wanted to stick with the wheels and tires I have for now .

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Kat has a new Tiger under the hood ?
Yep. There could be another Tiger brewing too.
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post #9 of 14 Old 12-18-2013, 11:41 PM
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My 44 was out of an 03 rubicon. My axle was also built by the PO of the axle with a super 44 kit and arb air locker. I love the thing because it has given me no problems. I got it from the guy because he was going with rock jock dana 60s and sold me the 44 for $250 even though there was at least $1500-2000 in it

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post #10 of 14 Old 12-19-2013, 01:12 AM
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37s and a d60 is a waste. If your gonna go d60 jump to 40s.

No reason a d44 cannot reliably run 37s. I've managed to break everything around my axle.... Driveshafts , transfer case, etc.

A narrowed hp d44 would be a great choice

Ruined a perfectly good jeep.


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post #11 of 14 Old 12-19-2013, 01:45 PM
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with an 8.8 in the rear I second the D44 vote.
D60 and an 8.8 sounds like a funny combo to me.

D44 can handle 37s, and has better clearance than the 60 would in that scenario.

as for a donor, I got my 44 out of a Bronco, very similar to the F-150-
I want to say 61" WMS? pretty sure....

but watch your lug pattern, bronco is 5 on 5.5, where your 8.8 is still 5 on 4.5 like the YJ right?
I put 15 inch rims on mine still though...

but yeah, any D44 would work, I'd go HP if you can, but that should be a no brainer,

Project #1- http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/5-0-yj-right-way-1799609/
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post #12 of 14 Old 12-19-2013, 01:52 PM
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a d44 *can* live on 37s.... but be aware the Ujoints aren't any bigger than that of a d30. they are the weak point and always will be.
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post #13 of 14 Old 01-15-2014, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks all for ur comments and suggestions.

I did find and purchase a D44 out of a 1977 f150

After inspection it appears the dif that I purchased is 65 3/4 in wide , not exactly what I wanted but it will work .

So now on to the build

- narrow axle by cut PS down by 5 1/2 inches
- correct pinion and caster angle .7 caster and up 8 degrees pinion angle
- up grade axles shaft and u-joint , strongest I can find with the larger u-joint ( toms bronco PN 3459 and CTM joints.
- truss for d44
- Cross over/high steer. This is where iam struggling . The steering knuckles that came with my d44 originally from a 1977 f150 r not flat top also do not have provisions for machining and eventually adding the typicial 3 bolt brakets . So I was thinking what options r available

> Reid racing D44 knuckle D44001FR
> D44 f250 Knuckles for flat top and high steer
But can I bolt my wheel spindle to a d44 flat top f250 knuckle .

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post #14 of 14 Old 04-23-2014, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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So finally some updates

It has taken me prob 3 months to get all of this work done, but I think well worth it, the Jeep works really good in the rocks , and run on the street OK...... LOL

I was also able to extend the Wheel base of the rig to just slightly over 98 inchs with out moving the gas tank.

- HP44 for the front
* narrowed by 6 inches
* 4340 front shafts with760X joints
* 5.38 gears
* Super Winch locking hubs
* Lockrite lunch box in the front.
* custom truss

- LP 9 in in the rear
* 5.43 gears
* Yukon Grizzly locker
* Back bone truss with additional skid and back up plates added to the dif for protection.

Front Suspension

I converted the leaf spring system to a 4 link with track bar and 2.0 King Coilover with Adjustable remote res.
I installed the WOF cross over system along with there high steer
Custom biuld all of the mount brakets, track bar and so on

Rear Suspension

Installed XJ rear leaf springs in the rear and added a military wrap to the springs.
Custom biuld shackes.

Wheels and Tires

-15x8 D window steel wheels ( 4 inch back spacing )
-38x13x15 Maxis Creepy Crawlers ( DOT )


I still have a couple things I want to do to walleee

- Bambar
- Custom biuld rear tube fender extensions
- Custom build front tube fenders
- Front sting
- Mods to the existing rool cage.
- DIY deadlocks

Maybe this summer
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