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Unread 03-12-2014, 10:57 AM   #1
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Looking for advice - How to secure top to windshield

Hi everyone

I am looking for ideas on how to properly secure the top to the windshield frame, the screws on mine have stripped, and the lip that holds the screws on the top is damaged because of the vibration, see attached picture.

I thought about making new holes for new screws, but maybe someone came up with an idea to fix this problem for good. I don't like the rattling and vibration and would like to find a solution.

Here the pic, thanks!



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Unread 03-12-2014, 11:18 AM   #2
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Just move the screws over an inch or so...
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Just move the screws over an inch or so...
x2. Use good screws...
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Unread 03-12-2014, 11:39 AM   #4
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x2. Use good screws...
Thank you... should I use pressure washers?
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Thank you... should I use pressure washers?

I would use a flat washer along with lock washers. Get yourself some self tapping sheetmetal screws and pre-drill the holes a little small.
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I would use a flat washer along with lock washers. Get yourself some self tapping sheetmetal screws and pre-drill the holes a little small.
Perfect, thank you!
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I did that last time
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I just switched to a larger screw....
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Look for "flush mount" nut- inserts, they are the best fix. I would also but the zinc plates ones over the aluminum inserts. Combine that with stainless steel bolts and flat washers.
But enough to use for the soft top / bikini top if you have one. I ran this for years on my old Jeep, and have done the soft top holed on the new one. Amazingly enough, the STOCK screws all still hold for the hard top!!
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Why does the top need to be screwed down? I didnt screw it down when I put the top back on before winter. The bar rattles a little sometimes but it sealed tight and doest leak..
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If you end up going with new holes and screws, for the strongest, longest lasting installation, drill tiny holes for the screws and use a small tapered punch to enlarge the hole without removing material. The effect you are going for is what is shown in this picture:



You will never really get the shape shown without being able to support it from the back side, but the intent is to leave as much material as possible surrounding the hole, so the screw has a lot more to bite in to and won't strip out as easily.

You can probably get a lot of the same benefits by just starting with a very small hole and using self piercing screws that look like this

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Fill the old holes, there is more than one post here describing how to repair rusted window frames. All resulting from missing screws.
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Unread 03-14-2014, 02:10 PM   #14
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id do nutcerts...
Thank you very much indeed!! this is the kind of solution I was sort of hoping someone would mention, something stronger and more reliable. By any chance, do you know where I can buy them?

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Look for "flush mount" nut- inserts, they are the best fix. I would also but the zinc plates ones over the aluminum inserts. Combine that with stainless steel bolts and flat washers.
But enough to use for the soft top / bikini top if you have one. I ran this for years on my old Jeep, and have done the soft top holed on the new one. Amazingly enough, the STOCK screws all still hold for the hard top!!
Thank you very much!

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If you end up going with new holes and screws, for the strongest, longest lasting installation, drill tiny holes for the screws and use a small tapered punch to enlarge the hole without removing material. The effect you are going for is what is shown in this picture:



You will never really get the shape shown without being able to support it from the back side, but the intent is to leave as much material as possible surrounding the hole, so the screw has a lot more to bite in to and won't strip out as easily.

You can probably get a lot of the same benefits by just starting with a very small hole and using self piercing screws that look like this

I did this last time, roads in Costa Rica are terrible, eventually all the screws stripped, I will try the nutserts

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Fill the old holes, there is more than one post here describing how to repair rusted window frames. All resulting from missing screws.
Any suggestions on how to repair the holes?
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Unread 03-15-2014, 01:16 PM   #15
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Your local auto parts store should be able to help you with nutcerts. I can give you the NAPA part numbers for the kit. 770-2875 is the kit number. You can also get the tool by itself and boxes of nutcerts. I have one of these kits and it has proved its worth several times.
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