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post #31 of 179 Old 03-31-2010, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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I got a question, Where abouts does this external conversion run, price range for everything needed.


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There are a lot of factors in the price range. The bellhousing is going to be used so that ranges from free to probably $100. I've also seen the bellhousing and fork and throwout bearing on ebay for $100 for all of it.

The type of slave cylinder/master cylinder set up and hydraulic line is going to cost different amounts. Pre bled units opihi listed above were $150 - $200. The line i bought was $70 and the slave was $45 and I reused my master.

Also I chose to buy a new throwout bearing so that was another $40 IIRC.

The bearing retainer is upwards of $150 or more online but could be had at a JY for much cheaper.

So I know that doesnt answer your question but there's no kit or anything and the parts range all over the board. what I suggest is keep an eye on ebay and craigslist or visit a local pick and pull for the best price. I also recommend going new for the throwout bearing and slave cylinder. No reason to do all that work and reuse old parts that may fail sooner.


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post #32 of 179 Old 03-31-2010, 08:21 PM
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I did the swap and price wise I got the bellhousing and fork for $120 shipped to my door from Ebay, The bearing retainer and seal for around $140 shipped from here4wdtruck.com, Jeep parts and accessories.
I ordered the clutch kit that included the throwout bearing $ 128 and a prefilled master & slave $140 from RockAuto. About $450 total. If you do the swap to an older jeep You will have to elongate the holes on a prefilled master/slave to fit the older master cylinder mounting studs.
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Thanks that actually is the type of answer I was looking for, ball part amounts...I am aware its based on circumstances and opportunities.
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Thanks that actually is the type of answer I was looking for, ball part amounts...I am aware its based on circumstances and opportunities.
Just in case you need another estimate, I got a bell/clutch fork assy from a 97 Wrangler for $50 off Craiglist, input bearing retainer used from Zumbrota Bearing and Gear for $50, new seal for it about $8, new clutch kit around $120 (Checkers), refaced flywheel $50, and new clutch master/ext slave/hose assy for $170(Morris Jeep online).
Hope this helps "de-intimidate" people anticipating this swap. It is a worthwhile swap. Anyone is welcome to PM me for further details as I don't want to walk all over Leans93 write-up thread.

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If you're going to get a new tranny, just use the input shaft that comes with it and all you will need to do is get the proper size pilot bearing. Is there any particular reason you would want to change it? Changing the pilot bearing is much easier than changing out the shaft.
I wasn't sure if the bore in the crank shaft was the same, if it is, I will just change the bearing.

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awesome, AWESOME write up!! This is just what I've been searching for! and you even answered my question about the years to source from. i found a bell housing from an 03 TJ for $75 and I couldnt be sure whether it was the right one. Now I just have to find all the other parts.. especially that external bearing retainer.
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make sure i get correct bellhousing

thank-you lean i have been searching hi and lo for this thread as i wish to do this to my yj 134k and now leaks and clutch doesn't work it still drives though 1-5 gears have to shut off to change directions though and put in direction then i can float gears' what should i tell boneyard to make sure i don;t get sent an ax15 bellhousing or an some other housing that is incompatable. they may not look as closely to see which they have, thanks all
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Are you having one sent to you? If you tell them exactly what you're looking for they should be able to find it.
You could send them a picture


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To ask a stupid question... I have a 91 4 litre. What pilot bearing do I need? Whichever matches the donor input bearing shaft retainer?
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To ask a stupid question... I have a 91 4 litre. What pilot bearing do I need? Whichever matches the donor input bearing shaft retainer?
Your pilot bearing shouldn't change if you're just swapping to an external slave, If you are using the same engine and trans then you will use the same size pilot bearing you currently have. The input shaft bearing retainer is changed out but none of the bearings need to be changed. The pilot bearing goes into your crank and the input shaft of the transmission goes on the other side of it but neither of these two are changing.

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Okay, cool. So there's a guy near me who has a ram clutch, slave/master, and clutch fork for sale for $300. With that combo, I would need to only pick up a bellhousing, input bearing shaft retainer, pivot pin & spring. Likely the hose adapter kit that (bigredcherokee?) picked up from AA to fit a 91 master cylinder, right?

If I picked everything up myself, would I need a new clutch regardless to fit the newer style throwout bearing?
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No need for a new clutch, the throwout bearings are similar if not identical in diameter. Not a bad idea to replace the clutch if yours is old since you'll have everything apart anyways. Not sure what a ram clutch is but you can get a Luk brand clutch for much cheaper than $300.

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ram clutches apparently are of similar quality to Luk. So if I do replace the clutch, should I get one for a 95 that would come with a new throwout bearing?
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ram clutches apparently are of similar quality to Luk. So if I do replace the clutch, should I get one for a 95 that would come with a new throwout bearing?
That will work just fine

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Groovy, then I think I'll order everything separately myself, mate the new slave to the old master with the hose kit so I don't have to deal with mounting the new master with different mounting spacing.
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