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Unread 11-03-2010, 11:28 PM   #1
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Leaking Steering Box

Hey, I just bought this Jeep Monday, and I have been learning how to drive stick on it. I haven't taken it off the road at all, just to and from parking lots to learn how to drive stick. I parked it in my dorm parking garage, and I went to it two hours later and there was a fresh leak, directly under the steering box/pitman arm. I saw a post about someone who fixed their steering box, and gave a very detailed write up about it (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/f...g-box-1088128/). I also saw someone say they used Lucas Power Steering Stop Leak, a liquid that, well, stops the leak. My question is, should I go and do the repair, being new to Jeeps, or should I try the Stop Leak. I guess I could try the liquid, and if it doesn't work, try the repair, I didn't think about that.



There's a picture of where the oil is coming out of.

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Unread 11-03-2010, 11:33 PM   #2
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go get one from a durango at a junk yard. Shouldnt cost to much, it will bolt right up and is much stronger then the one on there.
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Unread 11-03-2010, 11:56 PM   #3
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I wouldn't mess around with the stop leak, it's only a temporary solution. The steering gear box isn't too difficult to take off and it would probably be cheaper and easier to do what Hbeaudreau said and get a steering box from a 98-99 Dodge Durango.
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Unread 11-04-2010, 01:26 AM   #4
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How would it be cheaper? Wouldn't it be around 50 dollars for a steering box from a Durango? I just pulled that number out of the air, I don't know.
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How would it be cheaper? Wouldn't it be around 50 dollars for a steering box from a Durango? I just pulled that number out of the air, I don't know.
And last I checked, a reman replacement is well over 100, at least around here. The rebuild kit alone is 55ish.
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Unread 11-04-2010, 05:46 AM   #6
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I had the same problem with a leaking steering box...2000 Wrangler TJ.
Solutions are: 1) Replace with a rebuilt one - probably less than $200 w/ core and your time to do it. (OR a new one....more $).
2) Rebuild .... Kits are probably less than $40 at NAPA - and your time to do it. Results are "iffy" I'm told.

So, I tried something that an "old timer" showed me about 40 years ago.
I put about 1/2 oz of brake fluid (NO MORE) into the power steering reservoir. Brake fluid will swell o-rings. I did this - don't add any more than this. I watched my leak decrease in a couple of days and in less tan a week, it was gone.
That was about three months ago. At this time there is NO leaking from my PS gear.
I did this as a personal test....if it didn't work, i would have to replace the steering gear anyway.

This is quick, cost effective and it worked.
So far, so good,

ALSO, FIRST, I put a bottle of Lucas into the PS Reservoir. NO CHANGE in the leak.
.....Called Lucas, sent in the upc & receipt and got a refund.

I will probably use a turkey baster & short hose to pull out about a qt of "old" fluid and replace w/ new fluid one of these rainy days.

Overall. I am satisfied with the results of this test.
If you try it, let us know how it works out.
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At Partsource (canadian parts chain) you can get seals for the steering box, I think one is about 5$ and the other is about 12$. I bought a set when my box was leaking and it was less than 25$ all in.

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Junk yard box? depending where you're at it should be a lot cheaper then buying a rebuilt one
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Unread 11-04-2010, 12:49 PM   #9
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I have the same problem as MRJOHN with power steering on my yj. It was slowed the leak down to a little leak with lucas, but the AT fluid sounds good. I will put that idea away for a leakey day :-)
My wifes ford started the ford PS howl and lucas made it a wimper. Just wonder if some 90 wt. would of worked the same!
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I did Lucas, I got a couple of good reviews from a few friends, and it was cheaper. Put it in yesterday, no leak yet. If it starts leaking, I'll let you know. Thanks for the ideas guys, hdsport, interesting idea.
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I had a durango box leaking bad. Tried lucas junk, didn't work. Replaced it with a YJ box. I will turn the durango box in as a core and get a reman one eventually.

Also the rebuild kits are iffy. If you don't have everything tight and sealed properly, it won't work. I've seen friends try them with bad results and wasted time.
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How would it be cheaper? Wouldn't it be around 50 dollars for a steering box from a Durango? I just pulled that number out of the air, I don't know.
Steering box at junkyard here, $25. That's a low price for a gearbox upgrade that really only includes you knocking out a few bolts and popping the new one in.

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Also the rebuild kits are iffy. If you don't have everything tight and sealed properly, it won't work. I've seen friends try them with bad results and wasted time.
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Steering box at junkyard here, $25. That's a low price for a gearbox upgrade that really only includes you knocking out a few bolts and popping the new one in.



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I rebuilt the box I took out of an '86 XJ, four years ago. It hasn't leaked a bit since then.

$35 for the box with a dropped pitman arm, and $7 for the seal kit.
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