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Unread 03-24-2013, 02:19 PM   #31
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Ok. So you are losing power from the ignition switch to the relay. At the ignition switch connector there should be a yellow wire. Turn the ignition to start and check power to that wire.

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Unread 03-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #32
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I tested the power to the yellow wire, look at the pic below for reference. I'm not 100% sure if it was the connector to the ignition switch though. I'm also not fully sure if I was testing it right since the negative (black) cable on the volt meter wasn't being used. I put the positive to the metal end of the yellow wire, then turned the key/ignition; All I got was a 00.00 reading.
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Unread 03-24-2013, 08:16 PM   #33
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I tested the power to the yellow wire, look at the pic below for reference. I'm not 100% sure if it was the connector to the ignition switch though. I'm also not fully sure if I was testing it right since the negative (black) cable on the volt meter wasn't being used. I put the positive to the metal end of the yellow wire, then turned the key/ignition; All I got was a 00.00 reading.
You need to ground the black wire from the meter. You can ground it to the body. There should be some ground wires attaxhed by the ebrake peddle. Just geound it there.

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Unread 03-24-2013, 08:34 PM   #34
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@Siva283, I had the black wire touching bare metal on the Jeep body, I failed to mention I did that since I didn't know what else to do.
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Unread 03-24-2013, 08:37 PM   #35
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@Siva283, I had the black wire touching bare metal on the Jeep body, I failed to mention I did that since I didn't know what else to do.
That should have done it. I will refer you back to Que. I still have a lot to learn about electrical ill stick the to easy stuff for now.

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[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

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[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 03-24-2013, 08:58 PM   #36
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Yep, there was no power coming to the end on the yellow wire when I turned the key like when starting the Jeep.
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Unread 03-24-2013, 09:13 PM   #37
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So you measured the yellow wire at the ignition switch when you were turning it to the start position?
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Unread 03-24-2013, 09:41 PM   #38
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Well the yellow wire in the picture above. That plug of wires is located under the dash and attached to the steering column. I unplugged that thing and each wire has a metal part; so the yellow wire's metal end, that's what I measured when I was turning the ignition to the start position. It didn't get any voltage. So my guess is it might be the ignition cylinder or the wire in the steering column.
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Unread 03-25-2013, 07:58 AM   #39
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It sounds like the switch out the rod that goes to the switch. Just to make sure find a hot wire in the ignition column area and jumper power to the yellow wire and see if it cranks. If it does then post back and I will take you to the next step.
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Unread 03-25-2013, 08:06 AM   #40
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Well the yellow wire in the picture above. That plug of wires is located under the dash and attached to the steering column. I unplugged that thing and each wire has a metal part; so the yellow wire's metal end, that's what I measured when I was turning the ignition to the start position. It didn't get any voltage. So my guess is it might be the ignition cylinder or the wire in the steering column.
So you unplugged the connector when you did the test?

Que doesnt he need to back probe that wire for this test?
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[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.

Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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Unread 03-25-2013, 08:52 AM   #41
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Yes. The connector has the battery power on it! Did not catch that. Thanks. Use a pin and put it into the connector. It is called back pinning.
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Unread 03-27-2013, 07:47 PM   #42
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So I plugged the connector back in. I then tested with the meter which wire was getting voltage. Both the orange and the green wire had power.


They read 12.78


So then I took a paper clip, unwound it and slid it into the back of the connector to touch the orange wire end. I used the meter to test the paper clip's voltage. That read 12.78 as well. I then bent it over and put it into the yellow wire.


This is the reading I got on the paper clip then.


I moved the paper clip around a bunch to see if I could get a different reading. I then tried the ignition turned in different postions. Nothing was making it read different than 8.68. I then unplugged the connector and tried to do the same thing again but on the female part of the connector. I got the same exact results.


So I was able to get those readings, but nothing happened, nothing tried to turn on. What do you think??
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Unread 03-27-2013, 08:50 PM   #43
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After some research, I'm not 100% the yellow wire I've been testing is the ignition/starter wire. I looked at this and there is another area on the upper side of the steering column. I'll play with this tomorrow.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/b...witch-1226376/
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Unread 03-27-2013, 08:53 PM   #44
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is it possible that while you were cutting of the tails of the zip tie, you may have accidentally cut through a wire that was close to the tail you were cutting off?

something to look for at least.
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Unread 03-27-2013, 09:14 PM   #45
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No, there were only 2 zip ties. Nothing has been cut, I've checked.
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