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Unread 04-24-2011, 07:57 AM   #1
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jeep pulled off road (help)

Hello all,
I am in need of a great steering person.
I have high steer in my jeep with heim joints.
I visited NJ this friday and my jeep got yanked off the road just missing a pole
at 50 mph.
Thank goodness it was raining,I was able to slide to safety in a corn field.

What am I doing wrong,or am I missing steering parts
please help.
thanks,

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Unread 04-24-2011, 09:54 AM   #2
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How did it get "yanked" off the road at 50mph?
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Unread 04-24-2011, 09:57 AM   #3
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What am I doing wrong,or am I missing steering parts
please help.
thanks,
How bout you take some pictures of your steering set up so we can offer advice? Right now there's no way we can answer either of those questions without just throwing random ideas at you.
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i will take some pics.
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Unread 04-24-2011, 11:03 AM   #6
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Unread 04-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #12
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Well there's your problem.
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Unread 04-24-2011, 11:11 AM   #13
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I'm not sure how it would have been yanked off the road, but your entire front end looks VERY sketchy. Definitely not something I'd feel safe going 50mph in. If I were you I'd haul it all apart and start fresh without those lift springs, and without that massive track bar bracket. The knuckle bracket where the drag link attaches also looks like something you might want to replace.
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If this helps:

I run 36x12.50x15 tires.

No sway bar,but it is driven around town fine,the steering is very sensitive.

The road i was on was uneven,like the tractor trailers ware it down in places.
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Unread 04-24-2011, 12:09 PM   #15
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If it veered :

1. I can't see if the inboard end of the trac bar bracket is connected to the axle. It looks like there is a space between the gusset and the frame. If there is movement in the trac bar connection that can cause the drag link to be forced to move and cause the jeep to veer. If you hit a bump or pot hole or other irregularity that can cause the drag link to move if the trac bar is not securely fastened.

2. Drive wheel chocks or angled pieces or blocks in the front and back of both front wheels. You wamt to make sure the wheels can't move left or right. Have somebody turn the steering wheel left and right and you look for loose, weak or bending front end parts and connections.

3. You said the steering was sensitive. You might have changed the caster and that can affect the tires ability to folow or track. If it is changed too much the wheels can have very little ability to track and can shoot to the left or right especially if you have loose steering hardware.

4. I see a lot of welding on cast parts. That kind of welding requires very special procedures. Check those welds for cracking. It is almost impossible to maintain a good cast iron weld on parts that are in constant loading and unloading like the front suspension.

5. The connection or the drag link on top and then the tie rod on the bottom can also let let the steering try and rotate that king pin geometry .

6. The drag link has quite an angle to the axle so that means that in addition to left and right movement the drag link pittman arm connection also travles in an arc. That is a non controlled unopposed movement that puts slack in the system. That can let the tires veer.

7. If the road is asphalt and heavily traveled it can have channels. When tires contact the side of the channel they can veer.

8. A little bit of all the above conditions can cause severe steering reactions.
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